Why is benching considered a crap strength indicator?

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Wayne_Cowdrey		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:47
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22058 posts	JC said: A BB style bench is a great indication of pec/shoulder/tricep strength....its as simple as that So therefore its a great strength indicator....for those muscle groups I wouldn't say bench is a great indicator of shoulder (deltoid) strength.

Col_Austin		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:48
99.8 340/220/335 895 Member 1002, 1560 posts	Wayne_Cowdrey said: Grip strength is also important for deads. Although you mostly use straps, don't you? To test Robocop's theory, perhaps you could tell us what your best bench press is Wayne?

JC		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:50
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 13.07.2010 @ 14:50 PM by JC Wayne_Cowdrey said: I wouldn't say bench is a great indicator of shoulder (deltoid) strength. You wont find many, if any, raw 200+ benchers with poor shoulder strength IMO

dr_hazbun		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:51
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250 635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq	JC said: A BB style bench is a great indication of pec/shoulder/tricep strength....its as simple as that So therefore its a great strength indicator....for those muscle groups I completely agree Nothing wrong with tucking and a bit of an arch though.

Carl		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:53
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	JC said: You wont find many, if any, raw 200+ benchers with poor shoulder strength IMO exactly

bryce		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:57
Juice loose aboot this hoose Member 1401, 3962 posts SQ 160, BP 107.5, DL 210 477.5 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq	JC said: You wont find many, if any, raw 200+ benchers with poor shoulder strength IMO Like how you set the bar for strong benching at 5Kg below your PB.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:58
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22058 posts	Col_Austin said: Wayne_Cowdrey said: Grip strength is also important for deads. Although you mostly use straps, don't you? To test Robocop's theory, perhaps you could tell us what your best bench press is Wayne? Mostly use straps - because double overhand feels more comfortable in my arms and back, NOT because my grip isn't good enough. If you tell me your name I'll tell you my best bench!! Nah, I'm not embarrassed... I did a comfortable 140 maybe 3 or 4 years ago without doing any bench training. That is therefore technically my PB. I'm confident I could do 150+, and if I trained it I think I could make quite a bit of progress.


JC		...	13-07-2010 @ 14:59
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	bryce said: Like how you set the bar for strong benching at 5Kg below your PB. I think 180-200 is what most would class as a 'big' raw bench

OdiousSlob		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:04
Bell end Member 1271, 432 posts	Wayne_Cowdrey said: Mostly use straps - because double overhand feels more comfortable in my arms and back, NOT because my grip isn't good enough. If you tell me your name I'll tell you my best bench!! Nah, I'm not embarrassed... I did a comfortable 140 maybe 3 or 4 years ago without doing any bench training. That is therefore technically my PB. I'm confident I could do 150+, and if I trained it I think I could make quite a bit of progress. ..even more progress if you wore one of those gay shirts.

Col_Austin		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:07
99.8 340/220/335 895 Member 1002, 1560 posts	Wayne_Cowdrey said: I did a comfortable 140 maybe 3 or 4 years ago without doing any bench training. That is therefore technically my PB. I'm confident I could do 150+, and if I trained it I think I could make quite a bit of progress. So what you're saying is you don't really know what you could bench, but would like us to think it would be respectable if you were to.

thosebananas		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:13
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300 660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	i think you have all got the wrong end of the stick.. Best strength indicator to me means the one lift that you could get anyone (male/female, young/old, trained/untrained) to do and make an assessment of their strength from it. For me thats still the deadlift.

OdiousSlob		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:14
Bell end Member 1271, 432 posts	thosebananas said: For me thats still the deadlift. ..only because the deadlift is still your best lift.

Joni		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:17
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	i am neutral because all of my lifts are s**t: SQUAT is the best, or at least better than deadlift, because there are many ways of "cheating" and fighting a deadlift up, but squats are very unforgiving and will measure the strength instead of qualities like "disregard for health and intact spine".

Thing		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:17
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	OdiousSlob said: ..only because the deadlift is still your best lift. PMSL

Dave284		...	13-07-2010 @ 15:18
Member 832, 522 posts SQ 50, BP 0, DL 0 50.0 kgs @ 74kgs UnEq	by that reasoning everyone with long arms is strong as f**k

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