WSM alleged corruption by WUS.

jt said:Lol at anyone surprised by this

Mikeneto said:He is Scottish and the giant Live was in Scotland, he doesn't need to say random s**t to get him off his back. He was speaking frankly with a friend.

The latest Stoltman youtube is damage limitation which seems to be working on you.

Samthepigman said:I don't understand the who har really.

It's like Luke said, the best athletes get paid the most to compete, and those who perform best throughout the year get better groups in the WSM quals, which makes sense. As you don't want to end up with Shaw, licis, nova, Tom Luke etc all in the same group and a bunch of nobody's in another

Loz said that the events for WSM almost mirror the events of WSM 2015 when Shaw won. Are they favouring Shaw? Who is an entity of his own in regards to strongman and federations

BigMacca said:
This.
Can't quite get my head around people doing mental gymnastics to justify it though (not the retainer bit, the event rigging/group manipulation stuff)
It's been going on forever.
How many times did you see Holland's or Felix get a squat event in a WSM heat/group stage for example?
As a sport wanting to be taken seriously, it's devastating.
As a TV Show/Promotion, it all makes perfect sense.
Top level strongman is more WWE sports entertainment than it is an actual sport

Samthepigman said:I don't understand the who har really.

It's like Luke said, the best athletes get paid the most to compete, and those who perform best throughout the year get better groups in the WSM quals, which makes sense. As you don't want to end up with Shaw, licis, nova, Tom Luke etc all in the same group and a bunch of nobody's in another

Loz said that the events for WSM almost mirror the events of WSM 2015 when Shaw won. Are they favouring Shaw? Who is an entity of his own in regards to strongman and federations

PeteHodgson said:
having the same events for each heat.

macroth said:
Seems ludicrous that this isn't always the case, but whatevs.

PeteHodgson said:Athletes being on some sort of retainer seems fair enough. But rigging comps to suit them is a bit off. However, how would this work if there’s several athletes being paid if they’re in the same comps? Also, does anyone think any of the recent comps have suited either Stoltman over anyone else?
I actually thought the events at this years WSM did the opposite. No max log. Run in on stones to perhaps take away Toms advantage. Flintsone press to suit others like Licis, Bish etc.
Plus the grip event doesn’t play to the strengths of either Stoltman.
Unless this year WSM are ‘helping’ someone else.
However, this has been done before in comps hasn’t it? Straps for frame carry to suit Big Z more for example.
So, as JT said, we shouldn’t be surprised. Just sounds like this WUS fella stirring it for his own gain.

PaulSavage said:
You are way off on the events, they don't suit Martins, they massively suit Tom. Martins is actually not that great at flintstone lift, he's struggled an the best we have seen from him has been 25kg down on what we have seen from Tom. Tom loves the event, looks to be his best overhead and he could even possibly win it. Also wrong on the run in's, they actually favour tom as he's very good at front carrys and loading, basically the best in the world at both. Tom's training with the run in's have looked completely effortless, one motioning every stone to 200kg easy an run in's looking really comfortable. The final events are absolutely perfect for Tom, he's very good at every single event. Again he's great at medleys and front carries, an also pretty damn good at yoke now so the box to yoke medley suits him big time. Car deadlift should be his best deadlift as it suits the taller and heavier guys due to being on a pivot point, it's essentially lighter the taller you are and you can also use your weight to your advantage (think of a drag) an his deadlift has come on a lot. Truck pull, also a perfect event for Tom, again height and weight go in his favour and he's been winning these kind of events against everyone comfortably. Powerstairs with run in is again a perfect event for Tom, very strong in that position, again the height for the steps and again run in's suit tom as he's a fast mover, big strides etc Obviously got to actually get the job done but unless he's sick or injured or something he pretty much can't lose.

PeteHodgson said:
Fair enough. Maybe it is tilted in his favour then. Didn’t know Tom was good at behind the neck jerk as I’ve not seen much footage. I agree Licis doesn’t look as good as I thought he would do.

PaulSavage said:

The above said, after the deload and rest before the comp he of course is a different man an a great performer in contest so I'm sure he will do well. Could certainly be on the podium.

PaulSavage said:
You are way off on the events, they don't suit Martins, they massively suit Tom. Martins is actually not that great at flintstone lift, he's struggled an the best we have seen from him has been 25kg down on what we have seen from Tom. Tom loves the event, looks to be his best overhead and he could even possibly win it. Also wrong on the run in's, they actually favour tom as he's very good at front carrys and loading, basically the best in the world at both. Tom's training with the run in's have looked completely effortless, one motioning every stone to 200kg easy an run in's looking really comfortable. The final events are absolutely perfect for Tom, he's very good at every single event. Again he's great at medleys and front carries, an also pretty damn good at yoke now so the box to yoke medley suits him big time. Car deadlift should be his best deadlift as it suits the taller and heavier guys due to being on a pivot point, it's essentially lighter the taller you are and you can also use your weight to your advantage (think of a drag) an his deadlift has come on a lot. Truck pull, also a perfect event for Tom, again height and weight go in his favour and he's been winning these kind of events against everyone comfortably. Powerstairs with run in is again a perfect event for Tom, very strong in that position, again the height for the steps and again run in's suit tom as he's a fast mover, big strides etc Obviously got to actually get the job done but unless he's sick or injured or something he pretty much can't lose.