deadlift 3 times a week

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Downset		deadlift 3 times a week	04-08-2016 @ 21:12
Member 6095, 16 posts	Just wanted to know if it is ok for an advanced novice to deadlift 3 times a week.. Routine based on heavy day(80-95%) speed day(65-80%) and touch and go repetitions (70-85%) followed by some squats, push presses, and bodybuilding assistance work for back and shoulders. Is basically the cube method by brandon lilly but instead of 9weeks is 3 weeks. I used to deadlift once a week with sheiko type of volume but i feel like i want to deadlift more often. What do you guys think?

AdamT		...	04-08-2016 @ 21:25
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts	I deadlifted 3 times a weak, got a bit stronger, but near f**ked my back It can be done, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Rodger		...	04-08-2016 @ 21:40
salad dodger missing Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240 576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	IrishMarc does I'm pretty sure, varying intensities

Fatpete		...	04-08-2016 @ 21:45
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17896 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300 827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq	I consider it madness. It will end in tears, all of them yours.

Downset		...	04-08-2016 @ 21:52
Member 6095, 16 posts	Just to give an idea of the routine Heavy day 1 80% 5x2 Speed day 1 65% 8x3 Repetitions day 1 70% 3x8 Heavy day 2 85% 3x2 Speed day 2 70% 6x2 Repetitions 2 80% 3x6 Heavy day 3 90% x 2, 92.5 x1, 95x1, 80% 1+ Speed day 3 75% 5x2 Repetitions day 3 85% 3x5

unit94		...	04-08-2016 @ 22:11
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	I'm currently pulling 3x a week heavy beltless deficits Heavy belted 15 inch belted speed work off the floor I feel absolutely fine with it

matthewvc		...	04-08-2016 @ 22:21
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3233 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Fatpete said:I consider it madness. It will end in tears, all of them yours. Repetitions with very heavy RPEs is what I don't like - that tends to be a recipe for disaster with pulls even once a week esp 3x5 @ 85% i don't think I can manage 5 at 80%. 3x week if it's just low reps with majority of them rapid and maybe some partial rom or trapbar variations is likely ok.


Downset		...	04-08-2016 @ 22:31
Member 6095, 16 posts	So would it be best to get rid of the repetitions day and use some variants instead?

IainKendrick		...	04-08-2016 @ 22:44
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	You can. But your suggestion may not work. You'll need to use lower % to get accustomed to the work. 60-70% for low-mod volume per session. Maybe after a couple of blocks you can the play a bit more. You tech needs to be very good. By that it means safe as poss and to cause less fatigue on you back. My best deadlifting has been done after x3 a week frequency. I was able to eventually pull regularly with +80%. Have recently gone back to x3 and hoping for a good run!

Nimble		...	05-08-2016 @ 02:07
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260 550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	The deadlift was the only lift not to benefit from extra frequency in the Norwegian Frequency Project, for what that's worth

ChrisMcCarthy		...	05-08-2016 @ 08:09
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts	I agree with Kenders here - you may or may not be able to benefit from that (much would depend on the rest of what you do, of course) but I wouldn't start off there. I suspect that "jumping in with both feet" is what makes people think frequent Deadlifting is inadvisable.

Tom_Martin		...	05-08-2016 @ 10:20
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 425 1050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Fatpete said:I consider it madness. It will end in tears, all of them yours. Listen to this man's closed minded rhetoric about training hard, and you too can lower deadlifts very slowly and quietly with less weight each time!

matthewvc		...	05-08-2016 @ 10:57
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3233 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Downset said:So would it be best to get rid of the repetitions day and use some variants instead? yes, that's my preference though. I don't get on with reps on deadlifts. form breaks down and creates far more back fatigue than doing same volume over more sets lower reps. what i'd suggest is to start light (75% of target weights) on 3x week training and build up maybe 5% a week until you start overreaching.

matthewvc		...	05-08-2016 @ 11:02
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3233 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Tom_Martin said: Listen to this man's closed minded rhetoric about training hard, and you too can lower deadlifts very slowly and quietly with less weight each time! I don't understand why people do that. it's taxing enough on the back without turning the eccentric into a slow torture movement.

Fatpete		...	05-08-2016 @ 12:14
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17896 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300 827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq	Tom_Martin said: Listen to this man's closed minded rhetoric about training hard, and you too can lower deadlifts very slowly and quietly with less weight each time! Haha You must be the last remaining person on Sugden who thinks there is the remotest chance that someone will take the slightest notice of anything I say.

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