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AdamTIcon...08-01-2016 @ 14:48 
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oggy22 said:Was Z injured at WSM last year as well?


He lost so yes he was injured! Z doesn't lose when fully fit.
oggy22Icon...08-01-2016 @ 14:51 
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AdamT said:
He lost so yes he was injured! Z doesn't lose when fully fit.


Z doesn't strike me to moan about things when injured so if he was then I guess it was genuine. He enever mentioned it through wsm but I do remember a couple of years ago. Shaw in every interview saying he had an injury and then you have Hollands who goes on about injury every WSM - He'd of won all 9 finals he was in if wasnt injured judging by what he says!!
AdamTIcon...08-01-2016 @ 15:10 
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I don't agree on what you're saying about Terry mate. He has stated a couple of times, when he was going well he believed he had a chance of winning if not for injury. To be fair the man has reached the podium a couple of times and reached loads of finals.

I think he had a good chance in 2013.
oggy22Icon...08-01-2016 @ 15:25 
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AdamT said:I don't agree on what you're saying about Terry mate. He has stated a couple of times, when he was going well he believed he had a chance of winning if not for injury. To be fair the man has reached the podium a couple of times and reached loads of finals.

I think he had a good chance in 2013.


Don't get me wrong, Terry is a great Strongman. His 9 straight finals marks him as one of the greats due to his longevity at the top but IMO I don't think he was ever going to win it, even when going well in 2013 (possibly another 3rd spot up for grabs) - He's got too many weaknesses to win WSM, particularly his overhead and these days probably his DL & Squats too with the level the top guys have taken them to. He's good at any moving events but that's not enough IMO. Shaw & Z in particular are miles ahead of him. Thor has weaknesses similar to Terry and isn't smart enough in some events.
AdamTIcon...08-01-2016 @ 15:32 
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oggy22 said:
Don't get me wrong, Terry is a great Strongman. His 9 straight finals marks him as one of the greats due to his longevity at the top but IMO I don't think he was ever going to win it, even when going well in 2013 (possibly another 3rd spot up for grabs) - He's got too many weaknesses to win WSM, particularly his overhead and these days probably his DL & Squats too with the level the top guys have taken them to. He's good at any moving events but that's not enough IMO. Shaw & Z in particular are miles ahead of him. Thor has weaknesses similar to Terry and isn't smart enough in some events.


That is a more balanced post. I'm not going to say he was never good enough to win it. He didn't have too many weaknesses. Overhead and maybe squat. To be fair to the man, in his prime years he was up against Z and Shaw.
oggy22Icon...08-01-2016 @ 15:41 
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AdamT said:
That is a more balanced post. I'm not going to say he was never good enough to win it. He didn't have too many weaknesses. Overhead and maybe squat. To be fair to the man, in his prime years he was up against Z and Shaw.


Yeah, and Pudz in earlier years. In another time, he may have won. Shaw and Z will go down as 2 of the best ever so no real shame losing out to those 2
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I'll be interested to see how this comp pans out. I think shaw will do well on the moving events, but will stumble on the log.

I hope Ed manages to travel smoothly and get settled in before the comp. Would love to see him going in fresh and rested.
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FAT_SAM said:I think it's laughable to suggest Shaw will get a rep on log and Hall won't... Shaw in WSM last year wasn't even close on a 195 log! Ed strict pressed it with a torn tricep lol


I didnt say Hall wouldnt get a rep, i said i think he will behind shaw and Z who will get more reps than him.

2014 arnolds Shaw doubled the 200kg austrian oak. A feat Ed has never achieved.

Why arent they allowing suits at the Arnold? I know Ed used one when he did his 462 at the Aus Arnolds. Has that 'rule' not just existed because previously they have done the Hummer tyre deadlift? Since they are pulling from the floor this year, and looking for a new WR it seems daft not to allow suits when the current WR holder wore one each time he set the record.
drex50Icon...08-01-2016 @ 23:03 
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Shaw will never press 200 again
he is past his peak in 2014
MikenetoIcon...08-01-2016 @ 23:18 
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He pressed a 200kg log in 2015
AdamTIcon...09-01-2016 @ 13:07 
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Not really relevant to the thread, but Brian has been accused of insulina abuse. According to a bodybuilder insulina abuse, is more noticeable with the guys with huge belly and lowish body fat.

Does that describe anyone??
drex50Icon...09-01-2016 @ 14:54 
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AdamT said:Not really relevant to the thread, but Brian has been accused of insulina abuse. According to a bodybuilder insulina abuse, is more noticeable with the guys with huge belly and lowish body fat.

Does that describe anyone??


insulin is the most anabolic hormone

insulin is the steroid of steroids
if u think that in the last 10 years 200kg strongmen come up from just advanced training and nutrition u are naive

its insulin what makes the difference in bodybuilding 20 years ago and strongmen 10 years ago

high carb shugar meals with no insulin will make u diabetic in no time

insulin will not make u shredded, it will make u grow rapidly

compare Shaw to Oberst, Savatinov

last 2 guys are fat, belly button is inside fat
why
because they dont take drugs SHaw does, or Edd Hall
and im sure about that
no doubt
Shaw from 2010 Arnolds to 2011 has gained tons of bodyweight and strength

and hes in pretty damn incredible condition for 200 + bodyweight

i cant proove it
no one can
even his close friend terry hollands
will come up and say im talking crap

but i know it

Shaw's mentality is about everything he can do to get better- he will do it

and im sure lots of powerlifter are on insulin these days
heavyweights especially
AdamTIcon...09-01-2016 @ 15:10 
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drex50 said:
insulin is the most anabolic hormone
insulin is the steroid of steroids
if u think that in the last 10 years 200kg strongmen come up from just advanced training and nutrition u are naive
its insulin what makes the difference in bodybuilding 20 years ago and strongmen 10 years ago
high carb shugar meals with no insulin will make u diabetic in no time
insulin will not make u shredded, it will make u grow rapidly
compare Shaw to Oberst, Savatinov
last 2 guys are fat, belly button is inside fat
why
because they dont take drugs SHaw does, or Edd Hall
and im sure about that
no doubt
Shaw from 2010 Arnolds to 2011 has gained tons of bodyweight and strength
and hes in pretty damn incredible condition for 200 + bodyweight
i cant proove it
no one can
even his close friend terry hollands
will come up and say im talking crap
but i know it
Shaw's mentality is about everything he can do to get better- he will do it
and im sure lots of powerlifter are on insulin these days
heavyweights especially


What about Z's gut?
drex50Icon...09-01-2016 @ 15:36 
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AdamT said:
What about Z's gut?


Z uses lots of growth hormone in my opinion
especially last years as he gets older and his recovery is not that good as used to be
thats why his condition is better

but

he used to be more fat in the past
but he never rapidly changed, keeps every years gaining wieght since 2002

huge abdomen muscles and gut,aside massive core training, maybe from growth and plenty of liquid food
cant say for sure
huge gut, kind of a mystery for me

dont forget
its also about money
best there on the top take more quality drugs for sure
as growth and igf are expensive and not easy to find good quality
MarkCleggIcon...09-01-2016 @ 16:49 
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Post Edited: 09.01.2016 @ 16:50 PM by MarkClegg
You should apply for a job with WADA`s Out of Competition Drug Testing Program,

They could do with a guy like you on the team.

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