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Buddha | Ongoing discussion about forward lean | 09-12-2015 @ 23:52 | |
Coached by deine Mutter Member 5887, 145 posts SQ 182, BP 115, DL 200497.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | I had a discussion about forward lean and my question is: are lifters with long legs and women damned to practice good mornings instead of skwats? He did say that Sheikos opinion is wrong and that it's impossible for most lifters to squat with a upright torso. His opinion is basically that they have to do good mornings. So i ask the hall of Sugden what is your opinion? (can't insert a picture) | ||
Wiegieboard | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 00:20 | |
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.12.2015 @ 00:21 AM by Wiegieboard My opinion.It comes down to bone lengths and bodyweight distribution. Simple engineering really. If you want to squat more upright because you have s**t proportions, squat wider and do high bar. The longer the back and shorter the femur, the more upright the squat. | ||
Funky_monkey | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 00:33 | |
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.12.2015 @ 00:33 AM by Funky_monkey What's the ball and socket joint of their hip look like? It's not one size fits all. | ||
newhybrid | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 08:33 | |
Member 3714, 637 posts SQ 265, BP 177.5, DL 265707.5 kgs @ 97kgs Eq | Post Edited: 10.12.2015 @ 08:34 AM by newhybrid Buddha said:I had a discussion about forward lean and my question is: are lifters with long legs and women damned to practice good mornings instead of skwats? He did say that Sheikos opinion is wrong and that it's impossible for most lifters to squat with a upright torso. His opinion is basically that they have to do good mornings. So i ask the hall of Sugden what is your opinion? (can't insert a picture) sorry who is 'he' who said Sheiko was wrong? | ||
Funky_monkey | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 11:05 | |
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | newhybrid said: sorry who is 'he' who said Sheiko was wrong? BLASPHEMY! | ||
edi86 | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 13:24 | |
Member 5548, 415 posts SQ 270, BP 157.5, DL 310737.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | I have very long femurs and short lower leg and find that the only way to keep upright is an almost high bar position, wideish stance with toes out and with knees tracking outward over feet. | ||
matthewvc | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 13:26 | |
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3230 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.12.2015 @ 13:26 PM by matthewvc Buddha said:I had a discussion about forward lean and my question is: are lifters with long legs and women damned to practice good mornings instead of skwats? He did say that Sheikos opinion is wrong and that it's impossible for most lifters to squat with a upright torso. His opinion is basically that they have to do good mornings. So i ask the hall of Sugden what is your opinion? (can't insert a picture) all sorts of factors govern forward lean levers - femur length, tibia length and back length ratios. flexibility - ankles, hips, abductors (shape/angle of femoral head and hips affect whether you can ever get down with a very wide setup) i'm lucky to have decent squat levers (short femurs and long back) so can narrow stance, low bar and still be quite upright. but even a deadlifter build can still stand upright if he can get a lot of knee travel and/or take a wide stance. | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 13:48 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | Technique can be adjusted to maintain a "more" upright torso to allow better transfer from the legs to the bar. Not everyone can get a beautiful technique but everyone should be always striving to be more efficient. Just accepting that your not "built" for a lift and just whacking away with bad movement is lazy. | ||
Fazc | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 13:57 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | It's a L2P issue. | ||
force10 | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 14:30 | |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Not really sure that anyone can answer this question correctly as there are so many answers and viarables depending on an individual It was once explained to me that the bar just needs to be as central as possible over the hips and move in the shortest route up and down That's my input anyway | ||
Louweazel | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 15:46 | |
Member 4091, 486 posts SQ 142.5, BP 90.5, DL 152.5385.5 kgs @ 56.7kgs UnEq | IrishMarc said:Just accepting that your not "built" for a lift and just whacking away with bad movement is lazy. Says my 153kg squat at 59kg. I'll take my inefficient gains and national records ta much. | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 16:24 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | Louweazel said: Says my 153kg squat at 59kg. I'll take my inefficient gains and national records ta much. Congratulations on your results. | ||
Fazc | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 17:47 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | IrishMarc said: Louweazel said: Says my 153kg squat at 59kg. I'll take my inefficient gains and national records ta much. Congratulations on your results. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!! | ||
dr_hazbun | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 19:33 | |
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq | Obviously not an option if you're pursuing a powerlifting total, but if you're a long limbed athlete purely in pursuit of leg development, then swap back for front squats and do this in a heeled shoe. You can almost eliminate forward lean this way no matter how unfavourable your biomechanics. This has served me well. | ||
brownbear | ... | 10-12-2015 @ 19:46 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | IrishMarc said: Congratulations on your results. Trollololol | ||