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Fatpete said:
S uper
H eavy
W eight

Evis said:
Lol you went in a different direction than I expected after the first sentence. In any federation there will happen mistankes but IPF is not even close to being the worst. Ive lifted at Jr IPF worlds and by no means do I set the world on fire with my depth but I got white lights for my hip crease moving just below the top of my knee. If they were as harsh as you say no SHW would ever get a white light.

Tom_Martin said:
Seen bigger farces in terms of lifts wrongfully given in "other feds" though.

matthewvc said:
lowest is 0.30 in.. looks very in to me.

Evis said:
They lift more both due to being stronger and different rules. (Depth, raw-with-dad etc) and they are also way more muscular/shredded physique-wise.
Hard to beat that for us living the nattylife.

Benvie said:
So would you say someone doing their squats in a raw gbpf meet with a pair of knee wraps on hidden under their knee sleeves is OK as long as they don't get caught?
Cheating is cheating whatever way you look at it. I would tend to agree with what others have said that if you use PEDs in a tested federation (especially given the amount of options to compete untested in strength sports) then you're just a dick.

matthewvc said:
you have to admit, Russia have got an appalling track record around doping and one that goes back to the dawn of anabolics. john zeigler created dianabol for the US weightlifters back in the 50s because all the soviets were hammering testosterone and routinely beating their athletes (although it was not classed as cheating back then)

Evis said:
Did he work with a single powerlifter in his whole life though? Because if not I struggle to see the relevance.

Evis said:
There is a lot more to it than that though. Russias whole federation has been suspended several times. For 2016 the male Russian team is only allowed two lifters in each championship due to too many failed in-comp tests the last couple of years. And with the national coach. I am sure he has trained more than 10 athletes who are now banned.

Tom_Martin said:
To put it as bluntly as possible, the vast majority of powerlifters are s**t, and there are thousands of them in the country. GPC isn't a mecca of strength achievement, only ascended to after surpassing the natural talent in the country. It is full of s**t lifters doing their first comp who have been in the gym less than 1 year, just like every other fed. Most of them can't even wrap their head around an arena that openly allows them to use steroids. Probably still indoctrinated into thinking steroid users are worse than child molesters.
Top 10 wilks in each of the untested feds? All *probably* on gear.
Top 10 wilks in the GBPF? Extremely likely to not be the people who are cheating in the GBPF. Most likely to be on the next rung down flying under the radar trying to make it into the "big time". Small percentage, maybe 5% at a guess.

Evis said:
This is definitely not the case. But I see why someone who is involved with a different federation might claim something like that.

Evis said:
To me it seems like within the IPF at the moment you have some very gifted natural athletes and then you have some less gifted but enhanced lifters. I dont believe every gold medal to be by someone who at some point has done drugs.
The Russians seem to be as dirty as they are made out to be. The coach of the Russian IPF team Sergey Ivanov is the same guy who was coaching Lovchev at IWF Worlds. He is now also involved with some IPF lifters from Brazil and Ecuador. Which is not great.

matthewvc said:
I chose GPC initially because it was:
a) convenient comp near me at time
b) allowed knee wraps which i prefer.
c) looked to be selling powerlifting more as an 'extreme sport' (i like this), than the somewhat dry GBPF/BDPFA format.
most people i've talked to in the fed had similar non-gear reasons for starting out with this fed.
if we choose to board the enanthate express later on is beside the point, but at least if we do, we do it with a clear conscience ;-)