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shanejerIcon...20-01-2015 @ 16:44 
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Chicken is full of estrogen

Oh my gad
donnieIcon...20-01-2015 @ 16:55 
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Post Edited: 20.01.2015 @ 17:02 PM by donnie
shanejer said:Chicken is full of estrogen

Oh my gad


sintetic estrogen is used in chickens for more than 50 years
its what makes them bulky and fat
have u eaten a home grown chicken fed with no sicntetic
its so dry and much harder to eat
dannyboy73Icon...20-01-2015 @ 20:40 
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Post Edited: 20.01.2015 @ 20:43 PM by dannyboy73
Asdas are doing lux mince pies for25p. buy 100 and eat 2 pack a day on top of your overly (is just my opinion) clean diet.

Also, start looking through some journals here to get some proper training advise.
I always start by looking at someone with simular stats but still making progerss (unlike my silly old self)
... This is why I plagarise Hopkinsons training methodology from his journalWink
minibig1Icon...21-01-2015 @ 21:49 
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Sugden diet advice - best thing ever
NimbleIcon...22-01-2015 @ 07:31 
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Post Edited: 22.01.2015 @ 07:36 AM by Nimble
Warning: long post.

Nutrition is something I've actually studied a lot, as a layman (no formal study).

The Problems

For me, there are three main problems with the way people approach nutrition:

1) Fads and misinformation

Weight gain and loss are massive industries. People sell books, start companies and make lots of money from this stuff. Don't believe the hype. There are two important rules of nutrition that are relevant to most people:
- If you eat more energy than you use, you will gain weight (and if you eat less than you use, you will lose weight).
- If you eat good quality, healthy food you will generally be healthier than if you eat low quality, unhealthy food.

…Unfortunately it's impossible to make any money from proclaiming something quite that simple.

2) Lack of patience

If you want to gain (mostly) muscle or lose (mostly) fat, it's next to impossible to get results quickly. You have to think in months or years not weeks. Gaining or losing weight should be no quicker than 0.5kg/week (and often slower than that) for most body types, drug free.

3) Focusing on "the best" way of doing things, rather than what works for you

The "best" way of gaining good lead weight involves planning out your meals very carefully — thinking about micro and macronutrients down to the gram, and weighing everything. This works for professional bodybuilders. For most people though, this is unrealistic. You give up after two weeks.

My Solution (might work for you!)

1) Focus on "bang for your buck" foods
If you eat lots of these foods, regularly, your micronutrients will be covered without you having to think about it:

Meat & Seafood:
- Red meat (beef, lamb, game) gives you the most nutritional bang for your buck.
- The tradition of having fish at least once a week is a good one. Wild salmon is a great choice.
- Oysters are very nutritious, and worth having from time to time if you get a chance.
- Liver. Seriously. Eat liver. Especially beef or lamb liver. Don't go crazy though.. It is possible to O.D on vitamin A!

Veggies
- Greens. Spinach, broccoli, kale and rocket are the best bang for your buck.
- Anything orange. Sweet potatoes, carrot, pumpkin, squash.

Fruit
- Berries are your best bang for the buck. Go with what's in season.

Nuts & Oils
- Not too much. Almonds are a good choice. Ideally, eat them OUTSIDE of meal times.
- Olive oil is my oil of choice. Buy oil that comes in opaque containers and store in a cupboard.

Eggs & Dairy
- Good. Both very nutritious. Ideally cycle in and out of your diet, as both can sometimes cause allergies if eaten too much and too often.

Other Stuff (flavour as well as nutrition)
- Red chillies (very high in vitamin C)
- Garlic (numerous healthy properties)
- Ginger
- Lemon juice and zest great for seasoning
- Salt is not your enemy! (iodine!)
- Coriander

2) Just track your weight.

This sounds like a pain, but honestly it's by far the easiest way to track calories etc. that I've ever tried.

Make a spreadsheet that shows your current weight, and then weight gain (or loss) of 50g per day. This provides you with a "goal line". Next to it, leave a space for tracking your actual weight. Weight yourself naked after going to the bathroom every morning and track your progress in the spreadsheet. Make a chart so you can compare the two lines. If you go over the goal line, eat a little less the next day. If you're under it, eat a little more. Make sure you stay close to the goal line. Simple as that!
NimbleIcon...22-01-2015 @ 07:39 
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Also... Tuna twice a day everyday? Have you heard of heavy metal poisoning?
JonA81Icon...22-01-2015 @ 09:00 
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Nimble said:Also... Tuna twice a day everyday? Have you heard of heavy metal poisoning?


Heavy metal poisoning sounds awesome, I hear you break out in patches.
JackRevansIcon...22-01-2015 @ 10:26 
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JonA81 said:
Heavy metal poisoning sounds awesome, I hear you break out in patches.


I once got thrash metal poisoning
NimbleIcon...22-01-2015 @ 10:43 
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JackRevans said:
I once got thrash metal poisoning


What are the symptoms? I think I get this from watching some lifting videos. Stay away from any kind of metal myself.
JonA81Icon...22-01-2015 @ 10:44 
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JackRevans said:
I once got thrash metal poisoning


What were the symptoms?
RodgerIcon...22-01-2015 @ 13:38 
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minibig1 said:Sugden diet advice - best thing ever


Grin


I Like Nimbles post though. Good stuff Happy
MidEIcon...22-01-2015 @ 13:50 
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I'm going to confuse things here and say

If your looking to get stronger then you need to eat more calories. Within reason it doesn't matter where those calories come from as long as your hitting your macro targets. I'm not saying eat chocolate all day everyday and given your health issues its still important to eat your veg and fruit but if you want some chips, for example, and you can fit them in your carb target for the day then have them.

You need to calculate the amount of calories, protein, fat and carbs per day and go from there.
JackRevansIcon...22-01-2015 @ 13:56 
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JonA81 said:
What were the symptoms?


increased enjoyment of life
WiegieboardIcon...22-01-2015 @ 15:32 
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JackRevans said:
increased enjoyment of life


^^^^^ Jacks health shakes served me incredibly well when I was training hard. INCREDIBLY well!
unit94Icon...22-01-2015 @ 16:01 
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I am the biggest see food diet fan in the world but it's not what I would reccomend to a newbie. Seefood has its purpose and does work but it's also gonna get you pretty fat. At your level I'd just go 500 calorie surplus each day making sure you're getting atleast 1.2 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight. Plenty of fruit and veg and you'll be fine. I'd aim for 1lb of weight gain per 2 weeks so just adjust calories accordingly.

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