When/Can a person be called 'natural'

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scruffmcbuff		When/Can a person be called 'natural'	03-11-2016 @ 19:09
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300 750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq	Purely out of curiosity, as it was on my mind over the last few days. Here it is, A lifter has been competing untested for several years and using PEDS. He then trains for 2 years drug free and dosent compete in any fed for this time. After the 2 years clean and not guilty by assosiation could this lifter very well compete in a tested fed? I know he would pass the test, but im thinking more along the lines of is this lifter "natural" and could he in all good conscience compete against other nattys? Just to make it clear im not thinking of going natty. Gpc for life!!

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	03-11-2016 @ 19:44
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22056 posts	Lifetime drug free only in my opinion.

scruffmcbuff		...	03-11-2016 @ 19:47
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300 750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq	Wayne_Cowdrey said:Lifetime drug free only in my opinion. This was my opnion too. Just interested in what others thought.

umpalumpalifter		...	03-11-2016 @ 19:50
Member 5836, 366 posts SQ 220, BP 137.5, DL 235 592.5 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq	think this depends on the Fed and their rules. BDFPA I think is ten years, GBPF is two based of WADA? think there's a difference between drug free and natural - the later is only applicable if your drug free for life IMO

Boar		...	03-11-2016 @ 19:52
Nothing left in the tank. Member 5, 25563 posts Administrator	If you have been off the sauce for 2 years I think its ok to compete in a tested fed as long as their rules allow.

Floobler		...	03-11-2016 @ 19:52
Member 5964, 573 posts SQ 240, BP 160, DL 265 665.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq	I think if you use drugs at any point you can never call yourself 'natural' again

matthewvc		...	03-11-2016 @ 19:55
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3230 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Increase number of myonuclei in fibre permanently so never. You could argue that coming off long term leads to lower/zero test levels than had you stayed natty. However some study done with rats that were given enough test to shut their bo***cks down for 1/3 their life then taken off (No doubt many threads ensued on the rat version of MT about rat-GF issues or weeping at bridget jones dairy from PCT sides) and their leydig cells eventually recovered to be more responsive to LH and FSH. how applicable this is to humans is difficult as there's a lot of ex heavy users on TRT


ChrisMcCarthy		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:19
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts	You're allowed one Aspirin a year - any more than that and you're f**ked in my book. None of this addresses the worst form of Cheating - when people actually "train" for something.

ChrisMcCarthy		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:21
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts	matthewvc said:Increase number of myonuclei in fibre permanently so never. You could argue that coming off long term leads to lower/zero test levels than had you stayed natty. However some study done with rats that were given enough test to shut their bo***cks down for 1/3 their life then taken off (No doubt many threads ensued on the rat version of MT about rat-GF issues or weeping at bridget jones dairy from PCT sides) and their leydig cells eventually recovered to be more responsive to LH and FSH. how applicable this is to humans is difficult as there's a lot of ex heavy users on TRT Everyone knows experiments done on, erm, Guinea Pigs (?) have zero validity when related to Rat Population...or so my Rat friends tell me.

matthewvc		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:28
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3230 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	ChrisMcCarthy said:You're allowed one Aspirin a year - any more than that and you're f**ked in my book. None of this addresses the worst form of Cheating - when people actually "train" for something. you've pretty much requoted Corinthian idealism there 'natural untrained talent'

KevC86		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:28
Member 5141, 4206 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350 830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	Personally id say never. But most feds have their own rules on it, for the BNSF comps i believe it is 3 years drug free.

ChrisMcCarthy		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:38
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts	matthewvc said: you've pretty much requoted Corinthian idealism there 'natural untrained talent' Yep...musn't be seen to be trying too hard either, what!

The_Lone_Wolf		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:40
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275 650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	Natural athletes should have to pass the mole test to ensure they're drug free.

IainKendrick		...	03-11-2016 @ 20:41
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Either everyone is natural or nobody is. It's a rubbish term barely fit for purpose. As for competing in tested feds then just follow their rules.

scruffmcbuff		...	03-11-2016 @ 21:02
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300 750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq	ChrisMcCarthy said: Yep...musn't be seen to be trying too hard either, what! Would athletes failing to display a non chalant mannor of gay abandon be selected for a steroid mole test?

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