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billynomates		...	02-10-2020 @ 16:49
Member 4923, 1795 posts	Will his positive covid status affect the election result, if he cant protect himself how can he protect America etc etc? If nothing else he will likely be hit very hard due to his age and obesity. "The Dothraki follow strength above all".

dannyboy73		...	02-10-2020 @ 17:33
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8170 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255 657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 02.10.2020 @ 19:33 PM by dannyboy73 so...770 students test positive at Northumbria university...only 10% have mild symptoms! smell a rat with the stats yet folks? Herd immunity in controlled waves was and still is the plan. All these catch phrase statements to enforce oftern bizare rules (e.g. wear a mask to order food then sit next to where you ordered it and take your mask off classic!)...the government must be pissing themselves watching us follow like sheep. Those hoping Trump gets seriously sick...got news for you, hes a bit overweight but otherwise healthy. he aint getting seriously ill (unless it helps his election campain) Mark me wrong in 2 weeks and I will eat my keyboard.

dannyboy73		...	02-10-2020 @ 19:43
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8170 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255 657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 02.10.2020 @ 19:50 PM by dannyboy73 yea i agree with this. Media bias is now a pandemic. and man do they hate Trump. its 100% like brexit... we were called names and treated like children by the media and politicians...and look what happened. hell, even now remoners still saying we changed our minds...pure woke in action...all talking and zero listening. (i know, im becoming a very very angry old man) just shave my legs and call me Casandra. Shame because as a leftie, i would like to see a Trump out. but as a free thinker, Id rather see the media and polls humiliated...again. Ham said:I think trump will win based purely on the social media feed saying the exact opposite

Billwest		...	02-10-2020 @ 20:01
Member 541, 5366 posts SQ 192.5, BP 120, DL 222.5 535.0 kgs @ 92.8kgs UnEq	Funky_monkey said:I think the majority of Americans lack the intelligence to make the rational choice of not voting for Trump for a second term. They'll probably vote him in again. They knew what they were going to get the first time round, and the cretins still love him, therefore I reckon he'll get his second term in office. Annoying but probably true

Rick		...	02-10-2020 @ 23:12
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10068 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235 595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator	dannyboy73 said: (i know, im becoming a very very angry old man) I wish I had the luxury of being on the winning side and still being angry about it.

dannyboy73		...	03-10-2020 @ 10:13
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8170 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255 657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 03.10.2020 @ 10:14 AM by dannyboy73 hey Rick, im only pressing your buttons sir...no offence intended is the hospital visit par of the plan i wonder Mr Trump??? just in case.. keyboard and salt and vinegar at the ready Rick said: I wish I had the luxury of being on the winning side and still being angry about it.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	03-10-2020 @ 10:52
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22933 posts	I'd say that Trump is in much better shape than an average 74 year old. He may be 'obese', but he's not particularly 'fat obese' in my opinion. Just naturally quite a big guy. Nothing to do with the election, but thought I'd chip in because his health was mentioned.

Samthepigman		...	03-10-2020 @ 11:00
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300 705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq	Wayne_Cowdrey said:I'd say that Trump is in much better shape than an average 74 year old. He may be 'obese', but he's not particularly 'fat obese' in my opinion. Just naturally quite a big guy. I bet he gets alot of cardio courtesy of the first lady

Jonathan		...	03-10-2020 @ 12:42
the Ergbreaker Member 19, 862 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 260 590.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq	Samthepigman said: I bet he gets alot of cardio courtesy of the first lady I can't imagine that that happens. I would expect that the one contractually obligated shag happened when Baron was conceived. She clearly can't stand him, so I imagine they both get their fix elsewhere. Either way, I'm not going to take the high road like Biden. I hope Trump dies horribly of complications relating to covid 19. It would be a lot better than he deserves, the callous wa**er.

WILLSAN		...	03-10-2020 @ 13:11
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16708 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Jonathan said: I can't imagine that that happens. I would expect that the one contractually obligated shag happened when Baron was conceived. She clearly can't stand him, so I imagine they both get their fix elsewhere. Either way, I'm not going to take the high road like Biden. I hope Trump dies horribly of complications relating to covid 19. It would be a lot better than he deserves, the callous wa**er. im curious as to what trump has done particularly to warrant this level of feeling? I understand hes a pretty crass in the way he comes across but I dont see much, in terms of his actions, to generate large amounts of vitriol. certainly compared to recent presidents and other world leaders.

Billwest		...	03-10-2020 @ 14:09
Member 541, 5366 posts SQ 192.5, BP 120, DL 222.5 535.0 kgs @ 92.8kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said: im curious as to what trump has done particularly to warrant this level of feeling? I understand hes a pretty crass in the way he comes across but I dont see much, in terms of his actions, to generate large amounts of vitriol. certainly compared to recent presidents and other world leaders. I think most of the hatred - I don't wish him, or anyone dead- he attracts is on account of 1) His lack of policy on Covid 2) His attitude to BLM and his general stirring of the racial and other divisions within the USA 3)He has sold himself on the basis of being a successful business man and deal maker, yet we find out he has paid virtually no tax for 20 years. So, he is basically a crap businessman or a crook 4)His total 'head in the sand' attitude to climate change 5) His willingness to undermine democracy (trying stop mail-in voting, saying he may not leave office quietly if he loses) in the USA I'm sure there are more things I have overlooked I'm interested which world leaders you'd compare him to. Yeah, he may shine in comparison to Saddam Hussein, Duterte of the Philipines, Putin, but not many others So, which US presidents is he better than, seriously? I'm interested

Jonathan		...	03-10-2020 @ 14:16
the Ergbreaker Member 19, 862 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 260 590.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said: im curious as to what trump has done particularly to warrant this level of feeling? I understand hes a pretty crass in the way he comes across but I dont see much, in terms of his actions, to generate large amounts of vitriol. certainly compared to recent presidents and other world leaders. Where to start?! He's an affront to the office, for a start. Even if you don't take particular offence at any of his policies, it's important for a world leader to act in a dignified and respectful manner. He is absolutely incapable of doing that. On a policy point of view: * He has rolled back laws on women's rights * He has rolled back environmental laws * He has reduced protection for workers * He has worked very hard to remove health care coverage for 10s of millions of Americans * He has presided over an anti-science culture within his administration * He has undermined the press, citing any report that contradicts his narrative as fake news * He has hopelessly mishandled the covid 19 crisis * He has presided over record unemployment * He abandoned the Kurds in Syria, causing hundreds of them to be killed * He suggesting injecting bleach as a cure for covid 19 * He ramped up xenophobia and racism in America, providing a platform and legitimising right wing extremism and white nationalism * He pursued a policy of isolationism and protectionism, withdrawing from international accords * He sucked up to dictators and despots * He is subject to influence from foreign entities, not least because he's $400m in debt * He has cost the US taxpayer almost $150m just to fund his golf trips * He has been golfing 280 times during his presidency. He criticised Obama for about 4 trips during his terms. * His entire cabinet has been demonstrated to be criminal, with numerous convictions. The same could be said for his family too. * He is a serial tax cheat, hence the massive reluctance to release his tax returns. * He is a fraud and has been bankrupt 6 times * He has belittled and mocked those that have died in service of their country * He has mocked and belittled the disabled * He lies each and every day, about everything, serving only his own agenda. * He is a serial sex offender and has admitted as much on tape. That's just a few things off the top of my head. The list could go on and on. He is a total and utter cnt and death would be too good for him.

Billytheold		...	03-10-2020 @ 14:25
Sugdens crazy old person. Member 4936, 7288 posts SQ 270, BP 155, DL 270 695.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Funky_monkey said:I think the majority of Americans lack the intelligence to make the rational choice of not voting for Trump for a second term. They'll probably vote him in again. They knew what they were going to get the first time round, and the cretins still love him, therefore I reckon he'll get his second term in office. Would you buy a used car from this man. Say he gives you a in shop 4 year warranty?

WILLSAN		...	03-10-2020 @ 15:06
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16708 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Billwest said: I'm interested which world leaders you'd compare him to. Yeah, he may shine in comparison to Saddam Hussein, Duterte of the Philipines, Putin, but not many others So, which US presidents is he better than, seriously? I'm interested I think the most pertinent comparison for the world as it is today is xi 'pooh bear' jinping. mainly because the US is the only thing that stands between a world led by a flawed western democratic system and one led by an authoritarian chinese communist system. the more hyperbolic commentators have been known to describe trump as 'literally hitler' which I always thought was darkly humorous given that the challenger for leadership of the world's superpower could be described as such, without the hyperbole. whatever trump has done, it surely cannot compare to the persecution of christians, buddhists, uyghurs and falun gong. there is strong evidence that china is guilty of harvesting organs from political prisoners to order, for example. is there a more hideous crime than that? to me, it just seems a bit clown world that people will lose their minds over trumps views on climate change or building a wall whilst there are people suffering in concentration camps in china right this minute and no one appears to care. in terms of presidents, are you aware of the history of george bush snr? I have done a lot of reading on him over the years and the best comparison I can think of is the 'don corleone' of US politics. that guy has had his finger in some of US modern history's darkest moments from the bay of pigs, to the assassination attempt on reagan, to iran contra and the crack epidemic, to the franklin scandal, to the gulf war - the list is endless and his influence doesnt end with the end of his presidency. the man is as close to pure evil as is possible imo. without going into detail clinton and obama are also worse. bush junior not so because he was basically a sock puppet to dick cheney.

WILLSAN		...	03-10-2020 @ 15:15
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16708 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Jonathan said: Where to start?! He's an affront to the office, for a start. Even if you don't take particular offence at any of his policies, it's important for a world leader to act in a dignified and respectful manner. He is absolutely incapable of doing that. On a policy point of view: * He has rolled back laws on women's rights * He has rolled back environmental laws * He has reduced protection for workers * He has worked very hard to remove health care coverage for 10s of millions of Americans * He has presided over an anti-science culture within his administration * He has undermined the press, citing any report that contradicts his narrative as fake news * He has hopelessly mishandled the covid 19 crisis * He has presided over record unemployment * He abandoned the Kurds in Syria, causing hundreds of them to be killed * He suggesting injecting bleach as a cure for covid 19 * He ramped up xenophobia and racism in America, providing a platform and legitimising right wing extremism and white nationalism * He pursued a policy of isolationism and protectionism, withdrawing from international accords * He sucked up to dictators and despots * He is subject to influence from foreign entities, not least because he's $400m in debt * He has cost the US taxpayer almost $150m just to fund his golf trips * He has been golfing 280 times during his presidency. He criticised Obama for about 4 trips during his terms. * His entire cabinet has been demonstrated to be criminal, with numerous convictions. The same could be said for his family too. * He is a serial tax cheat, hence the massive reluctance to release his tax returns. * He is a fraud and has been bankrupt 6 times * He has belittled and mocked those that have died in service of their country * He has mocked and belittled the disabled * He lies each and every day, about everything, serving only his own agenda. * He is a serial sex offender and has admitted as much on tape. That's just a few things off the top of my head. The list could go on and on. He is a total and utter cnt and death would be too good for him. a couple of these I would agree with, some come down to perspective and some I dont recognise. as above though, I personally think they pale in comparison to US involvement in the serbian war, iraq, afghan, libya and syria. the amount of foreign blood on the hands of each president from bush snr up to trump far exceeds that of trump himself. everyone has different priotities of course but for me, that elevates him above the others.

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