CBL question ?!?!?
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| kpayne6 |  | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 13:49 |
Member 3754, 220 posts SQ 260, BP 190, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | ahh fair enough, peanut butter rice pudding it is haha | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 14:06 |
 Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | I dabbled with cbl but my training times vary and i think I must've done summit wrong. Got fatter. | ||
| kpayne6 | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 14:11 |
Member 3754, 220 posts SQ 260, BP 190, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | Works really well for me but im very sensitive to carbs and only backload with 200g carbs max 250g protein 200g carbs 100g fat each day | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 15:20 |
 understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9943 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | kpayne6 said:Works really well for me but im very sensitive to carbs and only backload with 200g carbs max 250g protein 200g carbs 100g fat each day Really? Wow, seems low to me for someone of your BW.... I'm only 83kg and on a typical backload I'll be looking at (ish as I don't count anything really, but I can roughly work it out as find I'm pretty consistent with what I eat with macros going up depending on how I feel) 220g Protein 350g Carbs 200g Fat (I get at least 80-100g in before training) If I'm trying to drop some bodyfat, I'll knock the carbs down to 270ish | ||
| kpayne6 | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 16:00 |
Member 3754, 220 posts SQ 260, BP 190, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | That seems like a huge amount of fat to me? I have spoken to few guys who have made good progress and they recommend lower fat (one guy is 130 kg lean and only eats 90g fat a day but 500g carbs and 400g protein) Im cutting at the minute and find if I have much more then 200g carbs when I wake up I look like s**t but like I said I am very carb sensitive I weighed 120kg when I started carb back loading | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 16:00 |
 I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Does this sound about right to you guys? I'm just about to embark upon a CBL approach and I'm just finishing off the 10 day prep phase. Going to do the Strength Accumulation protocol, but as I only train 3 times a week on Monday (6AM), Wednesday (9PM) and Friday (6AM) I will be back loading the night before the 2 early sessions, then a small backload after the Wednesday night session. So Sunday night would be a few high GI carb meals with high protein and low fat, then finish off with a fattier carb rich meal. Then train fasted Monday morning other than some strong coffee, then have a shake PWO and then go back to low carb. Looking for strength gains first, and fat loss and recovery joint second. | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 16:25 |
understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9943 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | kpayne6 said:That seems like a huge amount of fat to me? I have spoken to few guys who have made good progress and they recommend lower fat (one guy is 130 kg lean and only eats 90g fat a day but 500g carbs and 400g protein) Im cutting at the minute and find if I have much more then 200g carbs when I wake up I look like s**t but like I said I am very carb sensitive I weighed 120kg when I started carb back loading That fat is what's fuelling me  I would always look to increase fat and decrease carbs in the first instance (as long as your eating upwards of 200g of carbs) | ||
| kpayne6 | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 16:32 |
Member 3754, 220 posts SQ 260, BP 190, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | im still progressing well and dropping fat on 2700cals a day at the minute, how you get away with eating over 4000 cals a day I don't know haha maybe I should train harder! | ||
| JohnGym | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 16:34 |
 Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 30.04.2014 @ 16:35 PM by JohnGym kpayne6 said:how you get away with eating over 4000 cals a day I don't know haha maybe I should train harder! Haha,.same here. At 4k a day I get massive!!! | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 30-04-2014 @ 16:41 |
understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9943 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 30.04.2014 @ 16:41 PM by BigMacca JohnGym said: kpayne6 said:how you get away with eating over 4000 cals a day I don't know haha maybe I should train harder! Haha,.same here. At 4k a day I get massive!!! That's on a back-loading / Training day (4 days a week) On non training days it's closer to 2700 - 3000 (no carbs, less protein and slightly more fat) | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 01-05-2014 @ 14:39 |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | My understanding was to keep the protein to fat ratio around 1:1 | ||
| kpayne6 | | ... | 01-05-2014 @ 15:03 |
Member 3754, 220 posts SQ 260, BP 190, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | The_Lone_Wolf said:My understanding was to keep the protein to fat ratio around 1:1 I think that is for pre workout? not post | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 02-05-2014 @ 11:01 |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | kpayne6 said: I think that is for pre workout? not post Pre... So the low carb phase of the day. | ||
| kpayne6 | | ... | 02-05-2014 @ 12:39 |
Member 3754, 220 posts SQ 260, BP 190, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | yeah that's my understanding. all the guys I have spoken too say for fat loss its better to keep fat to a minimum on the backload phase. however there are some lucky f*****s that can eat what they like and wake up tighter in the morning. I put on weight very easily and find it hard to loose fat so I have to keep things strict with the backloads. I mainly use coco pops cereal (low fiber) rice pudding, milk+whey immediately post workout. no pizza cakes or anything like that. unfortunately haha | ||
| Thing | | ... | 03-05-2014 @ 20:52 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Do you think I can include this in my coffee fat protien drinks? Myprotein total nutri greens Soy Lecithin, Spirulina, Apple Fibre Powder, Barley Grass Powder, Wheat Grass Powder, Oat Fibre Powder, Pomegranite Seed, Alfalfa Grass powder, Chlorella Broken Cell Wall, Soy Sprout Powder, Acerola Berry, Red Beet Root Powder, Siberian Ginseng, Carrot Powder, Tomato Juice, Astragalus Root Powder, Spinach Leaf, Brocolli Powder, Gingko Biloba, Green Tea Leaf, Grape Seed, Elderberry Whole Fruit Powder, Blueberry Whole Fruit Powder PER 7.5g Serving: Energy: 109kj Energy: 26kcal Fat: 0.2g of which saturates: 0.06g Carbohydrates: 4.29g of which sugars: 1.1g Protein: 0g Salt: 0.015mg Using this protein powder myprotein diet whey Per 58g: Energy: 817.8 (KJ) Energy: 199.6 (Kcal) Protein: 31.6 (g) Carbohydrate: 8.4 (g) Fat: 3.8 (g) Fibre: 4.1 (g) Also provides per 58g: Green Tea Extract: 230mg Acetyl L Carnitine (ALCAR): 290mg Vitamin C: 50mg Glutamine: 1000mg I use half a 25g scoop per drink | ||
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