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shanejer | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:23 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | yeah JC a lean bulk. basically i think CBL is aload of s**t (bulk whilst getting leaner!) - what everything promies ..... but i have seen a few vidoes where people do it and it works so thought i'd try it. they also say feel great..... but i feel liek death ! | ||
shanejer | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:25 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | maybe i'll have to suck up a few s**tty workouts then hope i feel better ! | ||
shanejer | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:28 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Fazc said: I think the general consensus in the CBL community is that you'll get used to it. The symptons you describe are just due to your body not getting carbs/food when it's used to, a week or two and you'll get used to it. If you don't get used to it by that point, then you probably never will. If you change things around then by eating carbs spread out during the day then it's not really CBL any more. I'd then say you'd be better of sticking to your previous diet approach. My question to you though is why? You're already in good shape, why change things around now? If you just want to try something different, here's another option for you (And because I know how we all love the twins lol): hodge twins !!!!!!! lol ...... just doing it to bulk up but i get fat really quick (endomorphic bas***d) so if i just cane food i always go up to 90kg really fast but i have learnt that being 83kg lean and 90kg chunky dosen't really change my perforamnce infact it proberly gets worse! So i wanted to slowly add weight over the next 6/7 months | ||
Fazc | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:33 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Just give it a few months and then lol http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/fb1/4ec/85c/resized/winter-is-com... | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:35 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | shanejer said:maybe i'll have to suck up a few s**tty workouts then hope i feel better ! Are you pounding back the caffeine/protein in the morning? | ||
slimsim | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:36 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | So, you want to increase your weight and to do this you are going to limit the period in which you can consume carbs to just a few hours a day? To gain weight you HAVE to be in a positive energy balance, this is far easier to achieve when you can eat throughout the day. Why not just carry on eating like a normal human being, just make sure it is mainly clean, but then adapt your training so that you are working more into a hypertrophy rep range, get bigger that way and then gradually move over to the lower rep work to utilise the additional size you have put on? I'm actually getting more and more respect for the Hodge Twins! Maybe, they've brainwashed me! | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:38 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | slimsim said:So, you want to increase your weight and to do this you are going to limit the period in which you can consume carbs to just a few hours a day? To gain weight you HAVE to be in a positive energy balance, this is far easier to achieve when you can eat throughout the day. Why not just carry on eating like a normal human being, just make sure it is mainly clean, but then adapt your training so that you are working more into a hypertrophy rep range, get bigger that way and then gradually move over to the lower rep work to utilise the additional size you have put on? I'm actually getting more and more respect for the Hodge Twins! Maybe, they've brainwashed me! I think you are underestimating the amount you are supposed to eat after training. | ||
slimsim | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:39 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | shanejer said: hodge twins !!!!!!! lol ...... just doing it to bulk up but i get fat really quick (endomorphic bas***d) so if i just cane food i always go up to 90kg really fast but i have learnt that being 83kg lean and 90kg chunky dosen't really change my perforamnce infact it proberly gets worse! So i wanted to slowly add weight over the next 6/7 months You are most definitely NOT an endomorph mate - you are probably the perfect mesomorph. If you've bulked to 90kg and gotten chunky it's simply because you have upped your calorie intake too much too quickly. Start by adding 500kcals extra a day check on your weight in 2-weeks time. If nothing happens add another 250kcals - check in 2-weeks etc etc. Once you weight is increasing keep the calorie intake the same until there is no weight difference for at least 2-weeks, then repeat the process. Easy! | ||
slimsim | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:42 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | LessThanLuke said: I think you are underestimating the amount you are supposed to eat after training. Not at all, I know you are supposed to consume shed loads so that your glycogen stores are completely replenished, however, eating 500g of clean carbs is a fairly mammoth task, especially if you are training at night/late evening. | ||
martinb | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:45 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | slimsim said: Not at all, I know you are supposed to consume shed loads so that your glycogen stores are completely replenished, however, eating 500g of clean carbs is a fairly mammoth task, especially if you are training at night/late evening. on CBL he doesn't say clean carbs, anything but but I try and do it clean, 100 grams of dextrose/malto post training, then 750 - 1000 grams of potato in a meal, TOUGH GOING, but tasty | ||
JC | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:48 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | slimsim said: You are most definitely NOT an endomorph mate - you are probably the perfect mesomorph. If you've bulked to 90kg and gotten chunky it's simply because you have upped your calorie intake too much too quickly. Start by adding 500kcals extra a day check on your weight in 2-weeks time. If nothing happens add another 250kcals - check in 2-weeks etc etc. Once you weight is increasing keep the calorie intake the same until there is no weight difference for at least 2-weeks, then repeat the process. Easy! I think if you want to bulk, you should just eat as much as you can, throughout the day Yes, you may get a little fat, but you can sort that out 6 months down the line if you wish | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:49 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 26.06.2012 @ 13:49 PM by LessThanLuke martinb said: on CBL he doesn't say clean carbs, anything but but I try and do it clean, 100 grams of dextrose/malto post training, then 750 - 1000 grams of potato in a meal, TOUGH GOING, but tasty Yep the whole point is high gi carbs, very sugary to spike your insulin levels | ||
Adam_F | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:49 | |
conventional all the way ! Member 1980, 1201 posts SQ 217.5, BP 137.5, DL 255610.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Like macca says - you need to do the prep phase to get used to running off fats for energy...its described in the book - about how you feel s**tty for a few days until you adapt. Stick with it, it works | ||
bryce | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:50 | |
Juice loose aboot this hoose Member 1401, 3962 posts SQ 160, BP 107.5, DL 210477.5 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | Does anybody worry about their teeth rotting due to all the sugar? | ||
slimsim | ... | 26-06-2012 @ 13:56 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | martinb said: on CBL he doesn't say clean carbs, anything but but I try and do it clean, 100 grams of dextrose/malto post training, then 750 - 1000 grams of potato in a meal, TOUGH GOING, but tasty That's one of the things regarding CBL that doesn't compute with me. (I've not looked into in enough depth to see what their scientific thinking is although i know they mention hormonal responses to fasting). Insulin inhibits the breakdown of fat. FACT To consume enough carbs during the backload the chances are you would have to consume quite a lot of simple sugars (and probably a good bit of fat to go alongside that unless you are purely eating sweets) This in turn will cause a fairly hefty insulin response. So why would anyone want to eat unclean carb sources and provide their body with the perfect environment to store fat? Does anyone know the answer so that I don't have to read the damn book? | ||
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