strengh and how long it takes?
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justaboutpastit15/10/14 @ 19:27
Post Edited: 15.10.2014 @ 19:28 PM by justaboutpastit
After seeing the below thread... [url=] [/url] http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/What-is-considered-Mong-L...
reading some of the training logs on here, and the levels of strength quoted by Mr Small in relation to press (u90)
"Strong, 100 or over. Average, 80 or over. Crap, 60-70. I wouldn't make a differentiation because somebody may or may not be taking drugs so use the same figures. Can't see why somebody can't press just over bodyweight, in time."
I'm curious how long it took other Sugden menbers to reach the levels of strength they have.
personally I'm well below crap might even be in the "why do you bother" bracket.
dannyboy7315/10/14 @ 19:41
Post Edited: 15.10.2014 @ 19:42 PM by dannyboy73
took me 6 years to bench 140..12-18years oldtook me 15 years before i bothered deadlifting, the i did 240 in aboyt 6 weeks...however years of bent over rows, chins etc...
lots of factors to concider...
Special supplements make a massive amount of difference. A friend of mine got from 60kg to 120kg raw bench in less than a year, to 135kg 3-4 years after and then 12 weeks to get to 160.
The likes of Terry Hollands, Eddie Hall etc are probably the guys who pull 180 for ten reps the first time they tried deadlifting and on to 300kg with a years worth of training under their... ahem... belts.
The likes of Terry Hollands, Eddie Hall etc are probably the guys who pull 180 for ten reps the first time they tried deadlifting and on to 300kg with a years worth of training under their... ahem... belts.
MrSmall15/10/14 @ 20:30
Post Edited: 15.10.2014 @ 20:33 PM by MrSmall
Took me about 3.5 years to go from 100kg deadlift to 230kg. About the same period of time to go from 80kg squat to 170kg. Then I started weightlifting, not focusing on strength lifts, losing weight for competition and to be lighter and long story short did not progress strength wise almost at all for 2 years (certain areas like my posture got stronger, the same lifts were different, but ultimately no change on paper). Once I got back up to 85kg I gained strength at a far, far better rate. I was actually very surprised at this as I didn't think it would make that much of a difference.Also that guy in the other thread doesn't really know anything that isn't circus lifting, and even that is shady at best.
MrSmall15/10/14 @ 20:36
JackRevans said:I have inside information about something that smalls doesn't like
There are lots of things I don't like but what you talking about Willis?
John15/10/14 @ 21:01
Interestingly I've just started getting into overhead stuff because its strongman stuff. I started shaws shoulder routine, its taken around 6 or seven weeks to go from coin 60 to 95k I know this is crap considering my weight but I seriously don't bother with it hopefully in another 6 or 7 weeks I'm hoping to clear 100k I think if you having trained over head much or at all the strength will come reasonably quick sort of newbie gains especially with a good program but if you've been doing it a while obviously its probably gonna take a while longer.I personally find anything ocpver head hard going.
MrSmall said:
There are lots of things I don't like but what you talking about Willis?
There are lots of things I don't like but what you talking about Willis?
Too scared to say because I don't know how much it will offend you
I only seem to get stronger/ weaker as I get fat/ skinny.
For this reason I'm becoming a lean mean weak-benching fighting machine. For awhile anyway.
For this reason I'm becoming a lean mean weak-benching fighting machine. For awhile anyway.
I can remember it taking a long time to strict 100kg. Thats probably not very helpful but I cant remember exactly. Took me 3 year 3 months from starting the gym to push press 140 but i had done a little bit of push pressing at home before that
I hit the 80kg strict press a few days ago so I'm now average.
Training like 3 years. Gone from 60-85kg bodyweight with the usual injuries and breaks along the way.
Training like 3 years. Gone from 60-85kg bodyweight with the usual injuries and breaks along the way.
When I came out of the womb I couldn't even deadlift 30kg or push press an empty bar over my head. Now in a mere 24 years I have put over 200kg on to my deadlift and 100kg on to my overhead.
Basically I work harder than Eddie Hall.
Basically I work harder than Eddie Hall.
AdamT16/10/14 @ 12:58
Funky_monkey said:Special supplements make a massive amount of difference. A friend of mine got from 60kg to 120kg raw bench in less than a year, to 135kg 3-4 years after and then 12 weeks to get to 160.
I agree. Young guy in my gym was squatting and deadlifting well over 200 in a matter of weeks when he started the movements. He went from a 120kg bench to a 207.5kg comp bench in around a year. He wasn't natural but was never tested during a push/pull comp. Think was 207.5kg bench and 290kg deadlift in the 105kg class.
I agree. Young guy in my gym was squatting and deadlifting well over 200 in a matter of weeks when he started the movements. He went from a 120kg bench to a 207.5kg comp bench in around a year. He wasn't natural but was never tested during a push/pull comp. Think was 207.5kg bench and 290kg deadlift in the 105kg class.