'You've got the passion but not the gift'

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vausie		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:38
in real life im massive like big fridge Member 1317, 7144 posts SQ 220, BP 147.5, DL 290 657.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	kieran said:how can you tell whos genetically gifted when everyones genetically enhanced. the genetically gifted in my opinion dont often get involved in bodybuilding,powerlifting, strongman as the best are on gear and theres no money in them really. the genetically gifted would be more likely to do a sport with money... sport is a passion something you should do for the love of it not for the money thats called a job if you can earn money doing something you love then fair enough. I competed @ europian level and held many records in athletics as a junior (only regional records) so maybe i was genetically gifted to that kind of sport but i did it because i was good at it not because i loved it i love weight training and strongman maybe il never be as good but it makes me happy which is the main thing IMO. as regards the gear thats an excuse the best arnt always on the gear 'oh he beat me because hes on the stuff' no way in my book the best will still win with or without period

ben66		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:39
Why get fat to look big? Member 1330, 4797 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 305 805.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	kieran said:the best are usually groomed from a young age So Gary Glitter thought.

shanejer		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:46
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	kieran's just jel cos i was groomed as a child from my father and he wasn't

kieran		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:49
Member 3174, 52 posts	well if gear didnt exist, the biggest lifts wouldnt exist. therefore someone natural cannot be better then someone on gear. you cant deny science

kieran		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:51
Member 3174, 52 posts	shanejer said:kieran's just jel cos i was groomed as a child from my father and he wasn't your deadlift isnt too bad. but what about the other two lifts?

ben66		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:51
Why get fat to look big? Member 1330, 4797 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 305 805.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	kieran said:well if gear didnt exist, the biggest lifts wouldnt exist. therefore someone natural cannot be better then someone on gear. you cant deny science Tell that to Gary Glitter....

slimsim		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:53
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	kieran said: your deadlift isnt too bad. but what about the other two lifts? Oh s**t! Please don't look at my stats if you only consider shane's deadlift as 2not bad" and are insinuating his other lifts aren't very good.


shanejer		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:55
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	kieran said: your deadlift isnt too bad. but what about the other two lifts?

kieran		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:57
Member 3174, 52 posts	slimsim said: Oh s**t! Please don't look at my stats if you only consider shane's deadlift as 2not bad" and are insinuating his other lifts aren't very good. i was just pointing out his deadlift was his stronger lift, which is better then his other two lifts. i didnt comment to dispute, my comments were aimed at sam really as i didnt want him to have any doubt into his training. hes done well so fat, be nice to see that progression continued.

shanejer		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:57
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	I actaully think my deadlift is my worst lift lol !

vausie		...	12-04-2012 @ 22:59
in real life im massive like big fridge Member 1317, 7144 posts SQ 220, BP 147.5, DL 290 657.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	kieran said:well if gear didnt exist, the biggest lifts wouldnt exist. therefore someone natural cannot be better then someone on gear. you cant deny science oh dont get me wrong i accept the PEDS work obviously but take the olympics ok ok ok i know ppl have cheated the system but the biggest lifts happen there drug free. BDFPA strictly drug free look at the numbers not ALL top athletes are using im saying its used as an excuse for loosing 2 often 'aw well i finished last but every other guy was using' when the reality is you didnt train hard enough and you didnt want to win enough. i have close friends that take PEDS and none of them can out-lift me does this mean im genetically gifted or does it simply mean i train harder and want to win more i prefer the latter im not the best lifter but i train hard and set goals i will reach what i set out to not because im gifted but because i belive i can and i work hard enough for it, PEDS are an element of lifting but they dont make a lifter

MattD90		...	12-04-2012 @ 23:07
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230 530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq	shanejer said: you wot LOL x2

Fazc		...	12-04-2012 @ 23:14
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	kieran said: i was just pointing out his deadlift was his stronger lift, which is better then his other two lifts. He has a 250 raw squat and a 175 raw bench - weighing only about 83kg. I honestly don't know many people in the country who could do that. He's still tans which is gay as f**k but the lad is certainly strong all over, no question.

DomRedshaw		...	12-04-2012 @ 23:15
Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255 627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq	"i have close friends that take PEDS and none of them can out-lift me does this mean im genetically gifted or does it simply mean i train harder and want to win more?" neither it means u have weak friends lol. good post tho

Fazc		...	12-04-2012 @ 23:19
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	In fact, go ahead and look here: http://rawunitymeet.com/Results.html His total, assuming he could do it to meet judges criteria (his Bench would need some working on to pause) would have landed him second at last years RUM. Holy st, sorry to bang on about this but 'your deadlift isn't too bad, but what are your other lifts like' just blew my fking mind.

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