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chaos | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:14 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | martinb said:I can kinda see what Stainless is saying, that when the u105 class was conceived it was supposed to be some sort of stepping stone in to the opens but in reality thats not what has happened, not many guys start competing at 100kgs and end up 140kgs, in reality the 105 and 90 class has attracted "smaller" guys that perhaps in the past would never have had anything to do with strongman IMO the sport is far better for it Couldn't agree more, without 105 class I would never have got involved. I'm too big to be u90 (well couldn't be arsed dieting down) and way too small for opens, now after doing this for nearly a year I might consider doing an open event but only if the wieghts weren't too heavy. | ||
PeteHodgson | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:32 | |
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slimsim | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:35 | |
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PeteHodgson | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:46 | |
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Gra_Bul | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:48 | |
I was swinging out of control like an ape Member 1559, 4075 posts SQ 180, BP 100, DL 202.5482.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Solve it all and do U100kg and U120kg weights then opens simples, U90isnt a loy of weight to carry for a normal sized bloke and U105 aint a lot for a decent built fella like hixxy and Robbo etc Increase the weight categories and save lads being ''forced'' into opens level comps and getting swallowed by the masses, it may also make some of the average Joe opens stop being obsessed with plowing on fat bellies and getting ''big & strong'' by simply getting fat just so they have a chance at making it in the opens scene. Weigh ins will always be down to the organiser but most U90 will be between 92/96kg and most 105 lads will be 110 plus, simople answer is change the weight categaories and let the sport naturally progress as it seems to want to go this way anyway by the sounds of what people are saying?????? | ||
MarkClegg | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:50 | |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | hixxy1985 said:I dont think there is a right or wrong answer. Makes sense people competing in a weight cat should surely weigh that weight. But how many 105s are on the border line limit? we are trying to grow the sport and create interest and a 110 guy has more chance of giving it a go if he believes he can make weight given he learns to cut as mentioned in previous pages. I had no issues 24hour, or same day. Englands final was day before britains was the same day. I actually preferred britains comp for some reason....... Ive been doing 105s for two years, in this 2 years ive gained lost of competition experience, lots of friends (JC dont comment lol) and got a lot stronger. I think what Terry says about 105s stepping up is right, but when the time is right. Myself and Mark Clegg both picked up injuries doing open competitions last year even though we were both strong enough putting all the events together in one day proved a bit much. Just think we need to be open minded about weigh ins, keep in mind we need to attract fresh blood. More restrictive things become harder that is. YEAH ! Mr Stainless ! How is anyone hiding in the 105kgs ? I went to Portsmouth and shown my mate Frampton how to Deadlift and Hixxy is in this Weeks Euro Qualifyer. Say what you want about all this gaining weight BUT i don`t want to be a fat c**t 115kg and Hixxy doesn`t wanna be a fat c**t 145kg . We just wanna weigh what we weigh. | ||
chaos | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:50 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | That would just keep the same issue except now you'll be getting 110 lads trimming down to 99.99kg and 130 behemoths trimming down to 119.99kg monsters!!!! | ||
martinb | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:51 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Gra_Bul said:Solve it all and do U100kg and U120kg weights then opens simples, U90isnt a loy of weight to carry for a normal sized bloke and U105 aint a lot for a decent built fella like hixxy and Robbo etc Increase the weight categories and save lads being ''forced'' into opens level comps and getting swallowed by the masses, it may also make some of the average Joe opens stop being obsessed with plowing on fat bellies and getting ''big & strong'' by simply getting fat just so they have a chance at making it in the opens scene. Weigh ins will always be down to the organiser but most U90 will be between 92/96kg and most 105 lads will be 110 plus, simople answer is change the weight categaories and let the sport naturally progress as it seems to want to go this way anyway by the sounds of what people are saying?????? wow that makes a lot of sense | ||
JC | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 10:52 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | terryhollands said:I get what stainless is saying actually, not sure I totally agree but I can understand his view point. I think more 105's should step up and mix in in the opens instead of just competing in 105 comps Most do dont they? Me, Mark, Tony, Owen Lewis, Sam Cheseny, Hixxy etc etc have ll done BSM/UKSC qualifiers | ||
stainless | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 15:53 | |
Big fan of TWI Member 761, 425 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 260645.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said: YEAH ! Mr Stainless ! How is anyone hiding in the 105kgs ? I went to Portsmouth and shown my mate Frampton how to Deadlift and Hixxy is in this Weeks Euro Qualifyer. Say what you want about all this gaining weight BUT i don`t want to be a fat c**t 115kg and Hixxy doesn`t wanna be a fat c**t 145kg . We just wanna weigh what we weigh. I'm not for one second saying that anyone needs to put on weight,quite the reverse,what i am saying is that if you consider yourself strong then going up against somone that's heavier than you shouldn't put people off. To listen to some people talk you'd think that everybody in the opens is so far ahead of the 105s that there's no point in trying. I think those people are under selling their own ability. What if there was no weight categories? is it only people over 120kg that should even bother giving it a go? Surely if you were 100kg or so,or even lighter you'd still want to test yourself against those big guys? Maybe,it's just me but i thought that the best way to test your strength is to go up against bigger guys and see were you are rather than just measuring your strength and abilities against athletes of similar weight. What's wrong with strength just for strength's sake? should no one put themselves in a comp unless they expect to win or place high,that just sounds like ego to me. On the whole a good big un will beat a good little un like somebody's granny said,but not all big un's are good just because they're big.Surely we've all come up against some big huge f**kers that are weak as water,i know i have. The 105s like i said is a good testing ground,and full of really strong guys but surely the action is in taking on bigger guys in the open arena and beating them? | ||
terryhollands | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 15:56 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | JC said: Most do dont they? Me, Mark, Tony, Owen Lewis, Sam Cheseny, Hixxy etc etc have ll done BSM/UKSC qualifiers Not often. I have noticed a massive drop in open numbers down south and some of the 105's could more than hold their own in these comps. | ||
Joni | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 15:58 | |
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | stainless said: The 105s like i said is a good testing ground,and full of really strong guys but surely the action is in taking on bigger guys in the open arena and beating them? not really, i think i used to place higher in intermediate level open comps than in 105s, it is so much more competetive, a lot more guys just around your own ability levels which make it a battle and unpredictable, guys are more athletic, fitter, better conditioned, move well, technical, and top of that, strong. 105 scene in england is ridiculously good, and makes amazing comps. Prefer to watch them over majority of the open comps. | ||
stainless | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 16:06 | |
Big fan of TWI Member 761, 425 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 260645.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq | Joni said: not really, i think i used to place higher in intermediate level open comps than in 105s, it is so much more competetive, a lot more guys just around your own ability levels which make it a battle and unpredictable, guys are more athletic, fitter, better conditioned, move well, technical, and top of that, strong. 105 scene in england is ridiculously good, and makes amazing comps. Prefer to watch them over majority of the open comps. I can't argue with any of that if you are competing purely for competition's sake,but if you want to see were your strength actualy lies you'd have to put it to the test in an open field. | ||
miked | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 16:07 | |
Scottish champion (105 pensioners) Member 363, 627 posts | Stainless....Yet again you are talking a pile of s**te! | ||
JC | ... | 13-03-2012 @ 16:08 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | miked said:Stainless....Yet again you are talking a pile of s**te! LOL | ||