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Bodybuilding training is not really associated with CNS fatigue if it indeed does exist. High frequency, heavy weight, low rep training is though.
geopard said:
Unless you are one of the visitors from 'V' or are inhuman (or both), I cannot see how any individual can truly train to true failure each session. Perhaps you believe that there is no such thing as "over-training" or "training to failure" or "taxing the CNS"?
Unless you are one of the visitors from 'V' or are inhuman (or both), I cannot see how any individual can truly train to true failure each session. Perhaps you believe that there is no such thing as "over-training" or "training to failure" or "taxing the CNS"?
You obviously havent met tom ! Oh dear...
Shaun14/05/11 @ 13:18
People who, at the first sign of any tiredness or fatigue, think they are overtraining.
People who think you can only train each lift or body part once a week.
People that used to bench 500lb and squat 600lb but injured themselves and now only do quarter reps with 60kg.
People who think you can only train each lift or body part once a week.
People that used to bench 500lb and squat 600lb but injured themselves and now only do quarter reps with 60kg.
tz1127 said:Bodybuilding training is not really associated with CNS fatigue if it indeed does exist. High frequency, heavy weight, low rep training is though.
Really? http://www.criticalbench.com/CNS_central_nervous_system_fatigu...
Shaun said:.
People who think you can only train each lift or body part once a week.
People who think you can only train each lift or body part once a week.
That is how a lot of people train and what you see on the sports channel on sky
e.g. day one legs hit from all angles and different exercises,
day two triceps
day three biceps
Post Edited: 14.05.2011 @ 13:26 PM by tz1127
What exactly does the article prove?If anything it proves what I said, specifically that stereotypically singles stress the CNS a lot... (which itself is not necessarily a proven fact)... If anything there are some who would advise lifters to do more reps to stress the muscle more and the nervous system less... Bodybuilding training (10+ reps) is not associated with CNS/PNS stress. Hence bringing up Dorian Yates training seems irrelevent...
Some powerlifters and strongmen competitors are particularly susceptible to CNS Fatigue due to the fact that they often do so many single repetition lifts. This can overly stress the nervous system, cause it to "run out of fuel" and can result in the onset of CNS Fatigue.
Shaun14/05/11 @ 13:27
geopard said:
That is how a lot of people train and what you see on the sports channel on sky
e.g. day one legs hit from all angles and different exercises,
day two triceps
day three biceps
That is how a lot of people train and what you see on the sports channel on sky
e.g. day one legs hit from all angles and different exercises,
day two triceps
day three biceps
Yes, I know.
We're all surely impressed with your encyclopaedic knowledge of Dorian Yates, but I'm just left baffled by your responses and feel like we're having 2 separate conversations!
Perhaps you'd like to tell us in which year Dorian Yates parted ways with Kerry Kayes and his supplement company, CNP?
Perhaps you'd like to tell us in which year Dorian Yates parted ways with Kerry Kayes and his supplement company, CNP?
Tom_Martin said:We're all surely impressed with your encyclopaedic knowledge of Dorian Yates, but I'm just left baffled by your responses and feel like we're having 2 separate conversations!
Perhaps you'd like to tell us in which year Dorian Yates parted ways with Kerry Kayes and his supplement company, CNP?
Perhaps you'd like to tell us in which year Dorian Yates parted ways with Kerry Kayes and his supplement company, CNP?
1856? Actually who gives a s**t
haha Dorian Yates "shortly after he started training"
http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/dorian/dorian_yates_161_1984...
Good genetics or good generics?
http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/dorian/dorian_yates_161_1984...
Good genetics or good generics?
tz1127 said:Bodybuilding training is not really associated with CNS fatigue if it indeed does exist. High frequency, heavy weight, low rep training is though.
No, no, no and er, no.
CNS - the central nervous system .... has nothing ... NOTHING to do with any physical exercise ... it is as the Americans say "bro science"
I'll quote from another site :
"The central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system are quite different systems. The system that is most readily affected by training and forms of physical stress is the somatic branch of the peripheral nervous system.
The PNS connects the "body" to the CNS and is exposed to injury and toxins in ways the CNS isn't. The CNS is hidden away in the brain and spine and protected by the blood-brain barrier."
CNS fatigue is used to describe what people used to call "overtraining" .... add some "medical sounding" words and you sound all scientific .... I blame Louis Simmons for this obsession with making the primal and basic hobby of lifting weights into some sort of scientific experiment.
nick14/05/11 @ 13:36
Post Edited: 14.05.2011 @ 13:39 PM by tz1127
1369phil said:
No, no, no and er, no.
CNS - the central nervous system .... has nothing ... NOTHING to do with any physical exercise ... it is as the Americans say "bro science"
I'll quote from another site :
"The central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system are quite different systems. The system that is most readily affected by training and forms of physical stress is the somatic branch of the peripheral nervous system.
The PNS connects the "body" to the CNS and is exposed to injury and toxins in ways the CNS isn't. The CNS is hidden away in the brain and spine and protected by the blood-brain barrier."
CNS fatigue is used to describe what people used to call "overtraining" .... add some "medical sounding" words and you sound all scientific .... I blame Louis Simmons for this obsession with making the primal and basic hobby of lifting weights into some sort of scientific experiment.
No, no, no and er, no.
CNS - the central nervous system .... has nothing ... NOTHING to do with any physical exercise ... it is as the Americans say "bro science"
I'll quote from another site :
"The central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system are quite different systems. The system that is most readily affected by training and forms of physical stress is the somatic branch of the peripheral nervous system.
The PNS connects the "body" to the CNS and is exposed to injury and toxins in ways the CNS isn't. The CNS is hidden away in the brain and spine and protected by the blood-brain barrier."
CNS fatigue is used to describe what people used to call "overtraining" .... add some "medical sounding" words and you sound all scientific .... I blame Louis Simmons for this obsession with making the primal and basic hobby of lifting weights into some sort of scientific experiment.
I know.. hence see my post after that... We are talking about what "stereotypically" lifters and bro-scientists think
bignige1986 said:
You obviously havent met tom ! Oh dear...
You obviously havent met tom ! Oh dear...
For real? I would like to hear of how Tom trains. Does he hit 350kg every session? I know of some American teen who has an 800lb deadlift on youtube, but I also know what happened when he tried to deadlift too heavy close to the comp. He didn't hit the 800lb in competition.