coronavirus

dannyboy73 said:according to CBS4, asked teachers to wait until the end of the year to get vaccinated or risk their job
...This I dont agree with. If an individual wants it why shouldnt they have it? wont make them infectious or perhaps the issue is that the school doesnt want to pay out sick leave if the jab has long term health issues?
“Until further notice, we ask any employee who has not yet taken the experimental Covid-19 injection, to wait until the end of the school year,” the email reportedly reads.
It continues: “We also recommended that all faculty and staff hold off on taking the injection until there is further research available on whether this experimental drug is impacting unvaccinated individuals.”
...this is sound advise for anyone who doesnt need the jab. apart form the jab impacting on unvaccinated individual..how can this be so? Guess this is why its being reported as conspiracy theory.

Nearly a quarter of British health workers wary of Covid-19 vaccine

Up to a quarter of British healthcare workers have expressed hesitancy towards Covid-19 vaccines, the first comprehensive study of NHS and care staff suggests. Conspiracy beliefs, a paucity of black and ethnic minority participants in vaccine trials, or assuming immunity to Covid-19 because of previous infection were some of the key reasons cited.

“Understanding these drivers is important, because without this understanding you can’t implement any interventions,” said Dr Manish Pareek, associate clinical professor in infectious diseases at the University of Leicester who led the study.

Pareek and his colleagues previously identified lower rates of vaccine uptake among black and south Asian health staff, workers under 30, and those living in more deprived areas. To better understand the reasons for this hesitancy, they recruited 11,584 clinical and non-clinical staff working for the NHS and other health providers, such as dental practices and pharmacies. As well as completing detailed questionnaires about their attitudes to Covid-19 vaccination, some of the participants were interviewed more extensively to better understand their concerns.

The research, which has not yet been peer reviewed, found that 23% of health staff, were hesitant about Covid-19 vaccines, and that hesitancy was more common among BAME health workers, particularly those from black Caribbean groups. However, some white healthcare workers were also hesitant, particularly those in white other ethnic groups. Younger staff, pregnant women and those who had not taken up the flu vaccine were also more hesitant – as were those who had previously tested positive for Covid-19.

WILLSAN said:
this would be so much easier if no-one asked questions and did just exactly as they were told.

WILLSAN said:if only.

this would be so much easier if no-one asked questions and did just exactly as they were told.

Fatpete said:
Or if the asker of the question believed the answers rather than cling to the fanciful nonsense they LIKE to believe

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

A few friends have asked my thoughts on the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.

All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them.

Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else, but I feel like the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.

As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.

I'm not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I've read, my lingering questions, and explain why I can't make sense of these covid vaccines.

dannyboy73 said:

WILLSAN said:
I dont think these questions are crazy in the slightest but maybe im wrong. convince me.

WILLSAN said:.

my concerns about the vaccines are many and are largely covered in this article.

https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-b...

Fatpete said:
I can't, I don't think anyone can. You have the most closed mind I have ever encountered. This thread has lumbered on for 140+ pages now and you still want convincing.
OK that's fine but if you haven't changed your mind thus far, then you aren't going to. I don't see anything happening now that has happened previously.
If you were going to change your mind you would have changed it by now.
Either one of the above is fine by me. Probably fine by anyone. But having esthablished that you are going / not going to change your mind, why are you still here posting ?
You have already either lost or won (depending on your point of view) so why still continue the fight ?

billynomates said:
Did you look at the rebuttal to that article, referenced in the comments section? It can be found at https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/christian-elliots-18-reasons-i-wont-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine-viral-antivaccine-misinformation/
Far more compelling imo

#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING

Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data.

In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now–for ANY population.

Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?

This is yet another common antivaccine trope that’s been used about vaccines as long as I can remember, even long before the pandemic. It’s tempting just to respond that, to antivaxxers, no amount of “long term safety testing” is ever enough to convince them that a vaccine is safe. That being said, in fairness I must note that it is true that these vaccines have only been distributed for four months and were developed in less than a year, even as I note that the technologies behind the vaccines (mRNA-based and adenovirus-based) had been in development for a couple of decades before that. I note that anti-GMO “journalist” Paul Thacker made similar claims about “no long term testing” and, when called on it, really had to stretch to find any examples whatsoever of long-term side effects from vaccines, whose adverse reactions, when they occur, usually occur within a few weeks. Let’s just say that the examples chosen were rare and in special cases, such as immunocompromised patients. Given the data we have now, the highly unlikely possibility of rare late side effects cropping up months from now is not a reason, in the middle of a pandemic, to avoid a vaccine against a disease that is killing millions and disabling even more. Basically, this is a variation of a favorite antivaccine trope, the Nirvana fallacy, in which it is argued that if a vaccine isn’t perfectly safe and perfectly effective it’s crap.