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AdamT | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:37 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | FAT_SAM said:170 log and 405 dead are Pudz' PBs... yes and I'm sure Mark Felix pb were lower then as well. He would of evolved as well. Mariusz won 6 Europes strongest man. 5 worlds strongest man and 8 podiums. All the Uk combined can't beat that. It's like saying Carl Lewis would be a s**t sprinter, because his times are not great now. Sports evolve and so do athletes. | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:39 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | I edited my post to explain a bit more lol | ||
AdamT | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:41 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | FAT_SAM said:I edited my post to explain a bit more lol I now get u. Lol Yes I agree. If he was only at them stats, he would be f**ked now. | ||
dannyboy73 | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:42 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | True, however, Z did the record in 2004 (i think?) at 188k and therfore one would have to assume that Pudz would also have progressed...maybe not to z's lifts but certainly around the 200k mark by now, surely? FAT_SAM said:170 log and 405 dead are Pudz' PBs... 400 is relatively poor at world level nowadays 170 log would be close to last place out of all 30 athletes at wsm this year? The moving events would be too heavy for him nowadays, running with a 300kg yoke doesn't mean he could run with a 500kg yoke. If he bloated up to 160kg and stayed fit with it... different story! | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:43 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | You NEED 200/430 on log/dl to have a chance these days | ||
AdamT | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:48 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | FAT_SAM said:You NEED 200/430 on log/dl to have a chance these days You can't be too far off 200 lol | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:54 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | AdamT said: You can't be too far off 200 lol Not touched log since my knee haha | ||
drex50 | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:57 | |
It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts | FAT_SAM said: Hall had a torn tricep mate, but no one really heard about it because he isn't one to make excuses! he wasnt in good pressing shape since Arnolds comparing his lifts last year this time he was deadlifting 400x5 now 390x3x3 who knows how his peaking goes i dont expect big imrovements escpecially in pressing | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 01-01-2016 @ 23:59 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | drex50 said: he wasnt in good pressing shape since Arnolds comparing his lifts last year this time he was deadlifting 400x5 now 390x3x3 who knows how his peaking goes i dont expect big imrovements escpecially in pressing 390x3x3 sounds harder. Repetitive effort on the pull is tough. His pressing is looking strong atm, 90sx10 on incline is pretty sick | ||
AdamT | ... | 02-01-2016 @ 00:02 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | I still think Ed is at least a year off winning yet. Hope I'm wrong. I do believe he will win some day. | ||
unit94 | ... | 02-01-2016 @ 01:31 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | It did look like Z ran out of tacky straight away on the stones. I think he'll win next year and I also think the whole top 4 will be extremely close. | ||
MJG | ... | 02-01-2016 @ 02:10 | |
Member 5560, 769 posts | Just to point out that Shaw didn't need Eddie to beat Z on the stones. The difference between them was only half a point. So if Shaw did give Eddie the better tacky it wasn't out of self interest. If Pudz was around now he would of trained for the current competition. His max log is low because he never had to do max logs in comp so why train it? He developed himself for the contest he was entering. In 2009 he was very close to Z despite an injury. I see no reason to think he wouldn't have been able to keep up with the sports development like Z has. | ||
ChrisMcCarthy | ... | 02-01-2016 @ 09:16 | |
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts | If he were still around I don't know how much Pudzianowski would have evolved with the sport - I think it far more likely that the sport would stayed closer to the format he liked and excelled at. It is an interesting conversation, though I generally prefer to leave people in the era they belong to. | ||
The_Lone_Wolf | ... | 02-01-2016 @ 09:22 | |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.01.2016 @ 09:23 AM by The_Lone_Wolf Can Z keep improving though? Or, is he actually improving the last few years or simply maintaining himself?The whole Pudz debate is fun, but the reality is he won 5 titles and changed his direction. So in terms of history he's still the king of WSM. I think the winner of this years will be interesting. Z has to want 5, and Shaw is hungry for 4, while Thor and Ed just want to break the power 2 up and take their 1st. The events in the final will be crucial for those 4 guys. Who will have the most suited events. | ||
hifilover | ... | 02-01-2016 @ 10:45 | |
Member 3241, 2043 posts SQ 1, BP 192, DL 255448.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq | Does anyone think that Z may aim to win WSM and Arnolds this year and then retire on a high? My gut feeling is this, but could be wrong! For WSM this year, I'll go with Z, Shaw and Ed in 3rd (although 2nd would be nice if he ups his game a little more), but don't think he's good enough top win it yet, but again, be nice to be proven wrong! I know it's 'excuses', but if Z hadn't fumbled that stone, could this of been his 5th win?! Ed looked massively strong, but he shouldn't have strict pressed that 195; it was massively powerful/impressive but it was showboating a bit too IMO... More so when he's up against the best logger of all WSM! I also don't think Ed will beat Z's log record, unless he massively improves his technique and learns to drive with his legs more! I also don't think Thor will win WSM | ||
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