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| Cuddles |  | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:11 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | You realise there are more people watching 2nd division football than Premiership rugby, on a season by seaon basis? and that rugby is still predominantly taught in top end state or public schools? All of these things help tp contribute to the type of person who goes to watch a football match verus other sports. I dont blame football for that. I blame the people. | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:24 |
 he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Cuddles said:You realise there are more people watching 2nd division football than Premiership rugby, on a season by seaon basis? and that rugby is still predominantly taught in top end state or public schools? All of these things help tp contribute to the type of person who goes to watch a football match verus other sports. I dont blame football for that. I blame the people. Yes, but in countrie which have other sports as the number one spectator sport, that sport does not have the same violent fan problems as football generally does. I agree the problem is people, it just seem that those people are more likely to use football as an excuse for bad behaviour than other sports. | ||
| BenMac | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:26 |
 'Looks like Ben Affleck according to Pagan' Member 876, 2506 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 260620.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | davycummings said: Yes, but in countrie which have other sports as the number one spectator sport, that sport does not have the same violent fan problems as football generally does. I agree the problem is people, it just seem that those people are more likely to use football as an excuse for bad behaviour than other sports. American ice hockey / basketball / baseball fans love a good riot when their team loses an important game. | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:34 |
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | BenMac said: American ice hockey / basketball / baseball fans love a good riot when their team loses an important game. Really? I stayed in the US for a while and never at any time encounterd this. Most of the events were not even segregated, and to be honest I found spectators at sports in the US to be much more sedate than anywhere else. Perhaps it is different in different parts of the country, but its not like that in the North East for sure | ||
| BenMac | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:40 |
'Looks like Ben Affleck according to Pagan' Member 876, 2506 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 260620.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Yeah. All sorts of ar****les watch all sorts of sports! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/san-francisco-riots-g... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13802221 (Canada) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123534/Kentucky-stude... | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:51 |
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.06.2013 @ 15:51 PM by davycummings BenMac said:Yeah. All sorts of ar****les watch all sorts of sports! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/san-francisco-riots-g... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13802221 (Canada) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123534/Kentucky-stude... Interesting, I had left by then and was unaware of any of these. They seem to have a liking for setting fire to things. Makes for sad reading, this kind of mob behaviour spoils sporting ocassions for the majority | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:52 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22057 posts | Cuddles, what was the "do you hate humans?" question about?  I regularly get the "vibe" that I'm not on your proverbial Christmas card list, and this upsets me. Anything I can do to improve our relations?  | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 15:55 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Cuddles said:You realise there are more people watching 2nd division football than Premiership rugby, on a season by seaon basis? and that rugby is still predominantly taught in top end state or public schools? All of these things help tp contribute to the type of person who goes to watch a football match verus other sports. I dont blame football for that. I blame the people. I find it amusing that rugby is an upper class sport in England. | ||
| Carl | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 16:15 |
 Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | LessThanLuke said: I find it amusing that rugby is an upper class sport in England. i dont think it is 'upper class' i think it has people/players from all classes, especially playing | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 16:19 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Carl said: i dont think it is 'upper class' i think it has people/players from all classes, especially playing Union seems to be mainly upper classes. League is just rugby for idiots so it doesn't count  | ||
| Carl | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 16:26 |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | unit94 said: Union seems to be mainly upper classes. League is just rugby for idiots so it doesn't count the teams with the most 'upper class' players tend to come from upper class areas, no real surprise there? then you go to other places and its almost the exact opposite! | ||
| Flash | | ... | 10-06-2013 @ 17:16 |
 King of the impossible Member 3130, 2082 posts SQ 310, BP 200, DL 310820.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Those saying that fans are not segregated or violent towards players in rugby have obviously never played against Queens, Featherstone or Thatto Heath. Again though this is in the lower divisions (1, 2 and 3) of the national leagues. I find it interesting that in super league fans are generally segregated but then we have the challenge cup final and magic weekend and fans are integrated. Also in rugby league in Australia the fans are not segregated but things do go on between fans (fights etc, seen it with my own eyes in melbourne and at origin). like Olly said its just a smaller concentration of people so doesn't normally get publisised. P.s - I love football, its ace. | ||
| danbaseley | | ... | 11-06-2013 @ 00:23 |
 A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4479 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Cuddles said:In 2003 I was playing rugby for Blackheath against Harlow in a cults match. The match got called off after 10 minutes following a fight between our entire team and their entire taem and spectators. It happened after our prop punched one of their spectators when he called him 'a stupid f**king paki' (there had been at least 4 fights in the first 10 minutes). Having played at Harlow also, I can see this happening quite easily. Southend are also particularly violent and mouthy. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 11-06-2013 @ 12:53 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Wayne_Cowdrey said:Cuddles, what was the "do you hate humans?" question about? I regularly get the "vibe" that I'm not on your proverbial Christmas card list, and this upsets me. Anything I can do to improve our relations? Not at all Wayne! You seem to blame those things on football. It's my view that it has very little to do with football and much more to do with basic human nature. Football is just an easy way for people to develop a sense of belonging and to be part of something, which I believe most humans crave. If I dont agree, I say, that's part of a discussion to me. It doesnt matter whether it is you or anyone else! For me, it is far too easy to blame football. Now if you had picked other things, like player interaction with referees, the lack fo retrospective action, diving, faking injury, I would have supported your view 100%! I just dont think football and violence are anywhere near as linked as you do. | ||
| BenMac | | ... | 11-06-2013 @ 14:48 |
'Looks like Ben Affleck according to Pagan' Member 876, 2506 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 260620.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | I wish there was a lack of retrospective action for Luis Suarez! | ||