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jtIcon...28-10-2013 @ 20:36 
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macroth said:
Since you asked, I obliged and pulled 14.2 today (1:11.0/500m, 55spm)
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splendid time after seeing this I had a go some reasons why i should not of bothered are

reason the 1st I'm more farah than bolt

reason the 2nd I smashed my self in the face with the handle on the first stroke

reason the 3rd I tweaked my back

reason the 4th and most galling 16.7 slower than the porcine one

see me near a 100m again shoot me

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martinIcon...29-10-2013 @ 07:15 
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macroth said:
Since you asked, I obliged and pulled 14.2 today (1:11.0/500m, 55spm)
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Ha ha nice work! Couple of Q's...

What Drag Factor do you have it at?

Have you tried a few different rowers?

Do you use your legs?
macrothIcon...29-10-2013 @ 08:52 
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martin said:
Ha ha nice work! Thanks! Couple of Q's...

What Drag Factor do you have it at? 185. I might try max drag next time (which is probably upwards of 200 on my machine).

Have you tried a few different rowers? Not recently, no. There's only the one (mine) at the gym. A well-maintained erg will probably be, or at least feel, faster than a busted erg with a creaky chain and a loose shock cord, especially over such a short distance. I also put a stack of weights in front of and behind the rower to make sure it doesn't budge.

Do you use your legs?Yes, very much so, but I use a shortened stroke: less compression at the catch, and less layback at the finish.
SparrowIcon...29-10-2013 @ 15:09 
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macroth said:


What do you have the drag factor at usually?
martinbIcon...29-10-2013 @ 15:14 
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macroth said:
martin said:
Ha ha nice work! Thanks! Couple of Q's...

What Drag Factor do you have it at? 185. I might try max drag next time (which is probably upwards of 200 on my machine).

Have you tried a few different rowers? Not recently, no. There's only the one (mine) at the gym. A well-maintained erg will probably be, or at least feel, faster than a busted erg with a creaky chain and a loose shock cord, especially over such a short distance. I also put a stack of weights in front of and behind the rower to make sure it doesn't budge.

Do you use your legs?Yes, very much so, but I use a shortened stroke: less compression at the catch, and less layback at the finish.


185? Isn't it 1-10?
macrothIcon...29-10-2013 @ 16:51 
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Lever positions don't correspond exactly to drag factors. A dirty flywheel, other ergs in use nearby, placing the erg near a wall, and other things can affect the drag factor. You can check the drag factor in the "More options" menu.

http://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/tips-and-genera...

I usually use a high (180+) df for very short sprints like 100m, 150+ for a 500m, maybe 140 for a 1k, and 125-135 for 2k and anything above. In fact, I only keep a close eye on the df when I'm training for or racing a 2k. For the shorter stuff, I go a bit by feel.
If I'm doing a training piece, I use the df that I would use for the race distance that I'm training for. I.e., if I'm doing 8x500m as part of my training for a 2k, I'll use a df of 130, not 150.
martinIcon...29-10-2013 @ 18:28 
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Some sprint rowers keep it about 165 so I hear. It depends on your rowing style I suppose.

Cheers for the info, as I expected really. Shorter strokes with a high SPM are a must over the short distances that's certain. I'd even try upping your SPM and reducing seat movement more and see what happens.
SparrowIcon...29-10-2013 @ 18:49 
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macroth said:Lever positions don't correspond exactly to drag factors. A dirty flywheel, other ergs in use nearby, placing the erg near a wall, and other things can affect the drag factor. You can check the drag factor in the "More options" menu.

http://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/tips-and-genera...

I usually use a high (180+) df for very short sprints like 100m, 150+ for a 500m, maybe 140 for a 1k, and 125-135 for 2k and anything above. In fact, I only keep a close eye on the df when I'm training for or racing a 2k. For the shorter stuff, I go a bit by feel.
If I'm doing a training piece, I use the df that I would use for the race distance that I'm training for. I.e., if I'm doing 8x500m as part of my training for a 2k, I'll use a df of 130, not 150.


Thanks for that. I was thinking I may have been setting mine too low, but yours are even lower and you're a stronger puller than me, so I guess I'm not.
AndyCoupeIcon...30-10-2013 @ 07:14 
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100m - 16.7 secs

Low pull - 1:20
SparrowIcon...30-10-2013 @ 20:25 
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Low pull - 1.17

100m - 16.4 secs
unit94Icon...02-11-2013 @ 14:53 
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500m 1:36.1 I think I can go sub 1:30 with abit of practise.
SparrowIcon...02-11-2013 @ 17:16 
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5k in 19.07.8
unit94Icon...04-11-2013 @ 19:21 
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500m 1:34.2

Low pull 1:20 then the rower started bouncing around.
unit94Icon...07-11-2013 @ 17:29 
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10k 44:51.9
2k 7:49 (at the end of the 10k)

I'm starting to like this rowing stuff Happy
jtIcon...07-11-2013 @ 17:32 
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unit94 said:10k 44:51.9
2k 7:49 (at the end of the 10k)

I'm starting to like this rowing stuff Happy


12k total?

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