Box Squats
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| AndyH |  | ... | 08-07-2008 @ 09:18 |
Member 143, 237 posts SQ 340, BP 245, DL 310895.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | Kidney is sorted and on the road to recovery now thank you. Bad news is they go into my shoulder next week to repair the joint, whether I will ever lift again depends on the outcome of that operation. Excrement happens though & you always have to remember that if you dry it out you can make a good fire  Worse comes to worse I'll loose some weight and try extreme mountain biking or triatholon or something.Thank for asking | ||
| EDCLARKE | | ... | 08-07-2008 @ 15:46 |
 not particularly well educated Member 85, 10994 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | AndyH said: Kidney is sorted and on the road to recovery now thank you. Bad news is they go into my shoulder next week to repair the joint, whether I will ever lift again depends on the outcome of that operation. Excrement happens though & you always have to remember that if you dry it out you can make a good fire Worse comes to worse I'll loose some weight and try extreme mountain biking or triatholon or something.Thank for asking good news about the kidney,best of luck for the shoulder op! | ||
| Rick | | ... | 08-07-2008 @ 19:25 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10036 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Would there be any point in doing box squats just for speed work? | ||
| AndyH | | ... | 09-07-2008 @ 09:15 |
Member 143, 237 posts SQ 340, BP 245, DL 310895.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | If you were to try this I would look at getting into bands and chains sooner, but with lighter weights. One thing I did find when training with box squats was that by themselves you get the base gains and better explosive action, but once I added the bands and/or chains after the first few weeks of hard work I found myself with one hell of a lot more spring in my step, even as a 125kg lard lump. Quite nice to say the least. | ||
| MattGriff | | ... | 09-07-2008 @ 09:27 |
 Member 194, 3976 posts | AndyH said: If you were to try this I would look at getting into bands and chains sooner, but with lighter weights. One thing I did find when training with box squats was that by themselves you get the base gains and better explosive action, but once I added the bands and/or chains after the first few weeks of hard work I found myself with one hell of a lot more spring in my step, even as a 125kg lard lump. Quite nice to say the least. Agreed, to start with you will find it difficult to fire out of the bottom position, you just have to focus on accelerating all the time, once thats done then chains and bands (I prefer chains myself on the squat but each to thier own, some use both) Do them without a belt too as it will massivly improve your core stability once you start adding the weights (if going for max effort box squats by all means belt up) | ||
| AndyH | | ... | 09-07-2008 @ 11:30 |
Member 143, 237 posts SQ 340, BP 245, DL 310895.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | Aye - most definitely no belt at the lighter end of the work load. I know the Westside team advocate suit bottoms and wraps for box squats, but I would seriously reserve that till you are hitting the 500lb box squats with 40kg chain and two Blues either side. But back on the original question, yes box squats are great for many sports and purposes if performed properly. Get a coach if you can, if you can't get a coach at least get someone to watch you occasionally to adjust the little things on the technique. Then start reaping the gains. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 09:14 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | me and rick are giving these a stab tomorrow. VERY light though  Thanks for all the info and tips in this thread, very useful! | ||
| Steve | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 12:05 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | From this thread it would be easy to believe that box squats are the answer to all your training needs and yet only a very small percentage of the top IPF lifters appear to use box squats and train in a Westside manner. The obvious question is why? | ||
| dr_hazbun | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 12:18 |
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq | Steve said: From this thread it would be easy to believe that box squats are the answer to all your training needs and yet only a very small percentage of the top IPF lifters appear to use box squats and train in a Westside manner. The obvious question is why? I don't see any problem with using box squats for IPF lifters as long as (and this is VERY IMPORTANT) one makes sure his or her trainee squats down to a below parallel box. If you regularly squat to a parallel or above parallel box then you will obviously squat high in IPF competition. You do not have to be training 'Westside' in order to use a box. | ||
| Carl | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 12:19 |
 Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | i gave them a go last night to a box 1-2" below paralell, they felt wierd to begin with, but felt good towards the end | ||
| AndyH | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 12:25 |
Member 143, 237 posts SQ 340, BP 245, DL 310895.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | Personally I'd only say box squats are a useful addition to the arsenal of training methods; a very effective one, but just another method. Even when I did include these in a training run I always kept the basics (Sq, B & DL) in as hard and heavy and varied the stuff around it. So Box Squats = solution to world ills, global warming and chicken legs = NO. But they are handy | ||
| Carl | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 12:29 |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | lol, i did 5x3 regular squats then box squats after, i got a video so you guys could give me some tips, but the file is being gay and not working | ||
| MattGriff | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 12:36 |
Member 194, 3976 posts | I dont train westsidem, far from it but box squats are a fantastic tool for hitting the hammies and glutes. I would imagine most top stength atheletes will have tried box squats at some point, like so many things it is of course all variable for many, many different people. | ||
| Icepick | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 13:57 |
 still a cock Member 55, 1213 posts SQ 50, BP 25, DL 55130.0 kgs @ 0.1kgs UnEq | The box is good. Maybe not so much before a comp though. | ||
| Steve | | ... | 10-07-2008 @ 17:52 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | AndyH said: Definitely absolutely never never never do any rocking on the box - ever - rip your own head off and use it as a bowling ball before you rock on the box!!! MattGriff said: Andy has it right, don't f**king rock! And yet George Frenn who is usually credited with inventing box squats and squatted around 390kg at 110kg over 40 years actually recommended rocking back when box squatting and the exercise was in fact often refered to as "rocking box squats" | ||