learning to squat in a suit
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| Rico |  | learning to squat in a suit | 29-01-2013 @ 21:12 |
 Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | Got 2nd hand centurion from jt yesterday and wanted to give it a shot after my russian routine tomorrow and was wondering how i should go about it? I can get it on myself after a bit of lunging etc. I assume I should start with the straps down for singles/doubles? Any advice? | ||
| fong | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 21:43 |
 really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Also interested in how to squat also in a suit purchased from jt  . | ||
| Wes | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 21:44 |
31.6 and Obese !! Get in.... Member 869, 1355 posts SQ 320, BP 200, DL 310830.0 kgs @ 97.5kgs Eq | I've very recently began squatting equipped, also via a 2nd hand Centurian. What worked for me was just starting off slowly, getting a feel for the thing with the straps down, somewhere around or just less than my raw max. I just played it by ear for a couple more single reps, raising the weight slightly. Then did same with straps up. I loved the thing straight away, it felt good. I'm not saying this is the correct way of doing it, just what I did. I'm sure someone with more of the knowledge stuff will advise you further !! | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 22:48 |
 Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Post Edited: 29.01.2013 @ 22:48 PM by Fazc I was directed here  Is it your first time in any suit? If so, I suppose the first thing which will stand out is your need to push against the suit. Whether it's tight or not, the suit will push you in it's own direction as you go down. It'll force your knees in and cave your torso, so when you push against the suit and into optimal form that loads the suit and allows it to work for you. So you gotta boss the suit at every opportunity rather than let it boss you. Force those knees way out, arch that back hard and sit your torso down hard and then just stay with it. That's pretty basic advice, so it might not even be helpful. I'd say get a video up and let's see what you're doing. | ||
| Rico | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 22:49 |
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | Fazc said:I was directed here Is it your first time in any suit? If so, I suppose the first thing which will stand out is your need to push against the suit. Whether it's tight or not, the suit will push you in it's own direction as you go down. It'll force your knees in and cave your torso, so when you push against the suit and into optimal form that loads the suit and allows it to work for you. So you gotta boss the suit at every opportunity rather than let it boss you. Force those knees way out, arch that back hard and sit your torso down hard and then just stay with it. That's pretty basic advice, so it might not even be helpful. I'd say get a video up and let's see what you're doing. Cheers man, should i start with straps down? Also with knee wraps too? | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 22:53 |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Rico said: Cheers man, should i start with straps down? Also with knee wraps too? Straps down helps, specifically so you don't have to worry about arching the back too much. You can start off by just emphasising the knees out and trying to descend by slotting the torso in between the legs. The more vertical your torso is, the more the suit takes the load. Eventually when you're comfortable with that, knees and more vertical all around, then stick the straps up and start to arch the f**k out of the back as well as all the rest of the stuff. If you're already comfortable with knee wraps, I'd say leave them off for the time being. If the knee wraps are new, I'd just start with them first and then suit/straps down next time. | ||
| fong | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 22:54 |
really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | much appreciated for replies | ||
| Rico | | ... | 29-01-2013 @ 23:05 |
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | fong said:much appreciated for replies x2 thanks Faz! | ||
| Scottish | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 12:56 |
Member 2092, 592 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 220550.0 kgs @ 123.7kgs UnEq | Don't worry to much about depth either, when the suit gets tight and your face feels like it will explode come back up - takes time to get used to that feeling! High box squats will get you used to sitting back into the suit more then gradually lower the height of the box. | ||
| Funky_monkey | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 15:09 |
 403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Seeing as you guys both have a 200kg raw max, I would say put the suit on and go Bar, 60, 100, 140 for sets of 3, trying to feel your depth on the way down then explode up. No belt, straps down. Belt on, 160x2, 180x2 etc. I wouldn't necessarily go full on strapped and wrapped in the first session. Depending on the tightness of your suit and sticking points, I would hazard a guess at a 250kg ish squat. As Faz said, work on technique with knees, chest up and try to feel how the suit works to get the most out of it. | ||
| Rico | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 21:02 |
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | Cheers guys, managed to get some vids today.160kg and 180kg suit bottoms and belt. These were after 145x6x6 belt only. | ||
| AdamC | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 21:20 |
 Member 1519, 1476 posts SQ 320, BP 260, DL 320900.0 kgs @ 117kgs Eq | Rico said:Cheers guys, managed to get some vids today.160kg and 180kg suit bottoms and belt. These were after 145x6x6 belt only. Sit back more, try not to let your knees drift forward so much, i would advise trying to bring your elbows under the bar more also Box squats are a great way to help you learn to squat in a suit | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 21:20 |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Look okay at the moment, the real test with the suit is always going to be trying to get it to depth. That's usually when things go to s**t lol Scottish mentioned using a progressively lower box, some people do well with that others don't. A friend of mine used a box for a long time and his squat went completely to s**t, strong as f**k to the box but he just couldn't get any depth or stability without the box. A couple of frantic months of free squatting got him passed on meet day. On the other hand I used a box and it went okay(ish). Next step I think is a bit more weight and try to get it deeper. Was it seated right up to your crotch? | ||
| Luuuuuukey | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 21:22 |
 Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Fazc said: Was it seated right up to your crotch? I was going to ask that, looks a bit close to the knees to have been on properly. | ||
| Rico | | ... | 30-01-2013 @ 21:42 |
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | Thanks for the input chaps, I will bear this in mind. It was definitely right up to the crotch, my plums were very sore (i had lycra shorts on underneath so it looks like it isn't right up). The plan is to finish the russian routine, hopefully an unequipped PB then get to work in the suit. Though saying that I might do some suited work after the rep (5x5 etc) days of the russian routine. Box squats, yay or nay? | ||