What makes us fat?

drew said:

Obese and "fat" are two different things.

The popular definition of obese (as used on the BMI scale) is just based on bodyweight and height. It has nothing to do with how "lean" or chubby you are. If you weight "too much" for your height, then your are "obese".

The definition of "Fat" is also ropey at best. All in the eye of the beholder. My own definition of "fat" is if people are carrying enough blubber that it is impeding them in some way. There are people who are pretty much pure carnivores, like inuits who chomp on seal blubber and mongolians who eat yak and owt else. In the eyes of many people, conditioned by images in modern media - are FAT.

There are vegans who eat only fruit and starchy things in enormous quantities, but they are sometimes very lean and muscular.

It all depends on other stuff more so than small details of diet.

Our genetics pre date the human species by millions of years. Some of our primate ancestors may well have eaten only fruit and leaves. In the wildnerness of today, a major source of easily available calories is fruit. Wild fruit, particularly in the tropics in f**king packed with sugar (yes the fructose that many would say is poison). It is absurd and illogical to think that these valuable sources of concentrated and highly palateable calories have not played a very significant role in our biological evolution.

luke00 said:
Next statement 'calories make you fat' - complete and utter s**t.
I could put you on a heavily calorie reduced diet, but you could eat what you wanted. 500 a day, eat a Big Mac, or 500 calories worth of sweets and that's it got the day. You would lose weight, yes, but you would still have an unsightly layer of fat around your stomach.
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luke00 said:I've stopped posting on here, but after reading some of the posts on here I've got to interject.
'Carbs don't make you fat'. WTF ?
In one respect that is true, but not how you think. Insulin makes us fat and what creates insulin spikes and production carbs. Carbs are fine if unprocessed, unrefined and low GI

luke00 said:
I could put you on a heavily calorie reduced diet, but you could eat what you wanted. 500 a day, eat a Big Mac, or 500 calories worth of sweets and that's it got the day. You would lose weight, yes, but you would still have an unsightly layer of fat around your stomach.

luke00 said:Your not alone this level of Misinformation is ripe. I have drs and nurses as clients I even have a bupa nutritionalist and they don't have a fcking clue.

AKBC said:Paul chek has some interesting thoughts too about the reduced nutritional content of modern food meaning you need greater quantities in terms of calories to satisfy micronutrient needs, salt stimulating the stomach and therefore salt levels in food stimulating appetite further in spite of energy intake from eating them etc.

I dislike a lot of Paul Chek's attitude and some of the conclusions and recommendations he makes but I do find things like this interesting as further reasons why people fall into calorie surplus so consistently.

IainKendrick said:Uptaking far more energy than we expend. The rest are exasperating factors.

dr_hazbun said:
Exactly.
People overcomplicate this in order to make money out of it.
Chronic overeating is the answer.

dr_hazbun said:
Exactly.
People overcomplicate this in order to make money out of it.
Chronic overeating is the answer.