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This thread has been closed by a moderator. Replies are no longer possible.| Luuuuuukey |  | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 08:18 |
 Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | I like how he says arguing about 'gear vs raw' is pointless, then writes a nice little essay stirring up an argument pretty much about that very subject! | ||
| frankie1parke | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 08:24 |
 Squat depth : approved. Member 3804, 224 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 272.5752.5 kgs @ 115kgs UnEq | the only thing that pissed me off about westside is they make the claim "the strongest gym in the world" | ||
| robpalmer1 | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 15:10 |
Am I elite? Member 1674, 306 posts SQ 350, BP 250, DL 305905.0 kgs @ 93kgs Eq | Adam_F said: This makes a mockery of the sport. IPF equipped is one thing and very questionable as to the kits involvement but at least everybody squats deep enough. This is ridiculous. | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 15:18 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | robpalmer1 said: This makes a mockery of the sport. IPF equipped is one thing and very questionable as to the kits involvement but at least everybody squats deep enough. This is ridiculous. Often world class lifters shy away from commenting on this bulls**t and the american lifters call the critics all internet warriors and weak etc but you out lift the "westsiders" ipf rules, single ply legal lifts drug tested. | ||
| robpalmer1 | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 19:41 |
Am I elite? Member 1674, 306 posts SQ 350, BP 250, DL 305905.0 kgs @ 93kgs Eq | brownbear said: Often world class lifters shy away from commenting on this bulls**t and the american lifters call the critics all internet warriors and weak etc but you out lift the "westsiders" ipf rules, single ply legal lifts drug tested. Well not sure if I outlift them if they are passing that off as a legitimate lift. Agree with that guys article to an extent. I use some of the same principles that are used in the westside system and it is a decent training system, but I am baffled as to why they promote videos like that as "World Records". | ||
| jimmyf | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 19:56 |
 Member 4098, 532 posts SQ 235, BP 150, DL 260645.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | I fully agree, Laura is a strong lady for sure but those squats were a disgrace to powerlifting tbh....or more to the point the judging is....I remember the spf gave Dave Hoff a WR squat and then it turned out the bar was mis-loaded, he said he didn't want the record but the SPF refused to acknowledge the mis-load lol | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 19:58 |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | jimmyf said:I fully agree, Laura is a strong lady for sure but those squats were a disgrace to powerlifting tbh....or more to the point the judging is....I remember the spf gave Dave Hoff a WR squat and then it turned out the bar was mis-loaded, he said he didn't want the record but the SPF refused to acknowledge the mis-load lol How can you not acknowledge a misload??? | ||
| milsy | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 20:29 |
 Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | brownbear said: How can you not acknowledge a misload??? Because the spf prides it self on saying it is the strongest fed in the world can often see the centre ref standing up celebrating a squat before the lifters even re racked the bar Most of the " all time world American" records are broken at every spf powerlifting comp And everyone who bad mouths the fed is classed as a "hater" | ||
| milsy | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 20:31 |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | brownbear said: How can you not acknowledge a misload??? Because the spf prides it self on saying it is the strongest fed in the world can often see the centre ref standing up celebrating a squat before the lifters even re racked the bar Most of the " all time world American" records are broken at every spf powerlifting comp And everyone who bad mouths the fed is classed as a "hater" | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 20:32 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | jimmyf said:I fully agree, Laura is a strong lady for sure but those squats were a disgrace to powerlifting tbh....or more to the point the judging is....I remember the spf gave Dave Hoff a WR squat and then it turned out the bar was mis-loaded, he said he didn't want the record but the SPF refused to acknowledge the mis-load lol The SPF really don't want credibility! | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 20:33 |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | milsy said: Because the spf prides it self on saying it is the strongest fed in the world can often see the centre ref standing up celebrating a squat before the lifters even re racked the bar Most of the " all time world American" records are broken at every spf powerlifting comp And everyone who bad mouths the fed is classed as a "hater" Lol Haters..... Those real things | ||
| rob0210 | | ... | 30-03-2013 @ 09:25 |
Member 1723, 821 posts SQ 280, BP 200, DL 330810.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | A lot of what I learned when I was starting out was from stuff that was written by multiply guys because that was pretty much all I could find, though to be honest I had no idea of what suits/shirts were then! Some of the multiply guys are very strong, but it does annoy me that that's how they choose display their strength. With single ply (at least IPF single ply) & unequipped there's pretty much no difference in how the lifts are performed, walked out squats, same depth standards, start/press commands etc. The lifts look and are performed in the same way. Then for some reason with multiply there's a complete change in standards with no walk out, depth goes out the window and soft handouts on t&g benches! I can understand the appeal of multiply and the bigger numbers, but not the complete change in standards. On a similar note, on another forum I read someone was putting forward the idea of changing the depth rule for multiply squats after one of his guys bombed as it was 'impossible' for him to break parallel! | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 30-03-2013 @ 09:45 |
 Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | rob0210 said:A lot of what I learned when I was starting out was from stuff that was written by multiply guys because that was pretty much all I could find, though to be honest I had no idea of what suits/shirts were then! Yep, it just so happened around 2000 when the internet forums and strength sites were starting to gain in popularity Westside was putting out a lot of info. There was very little on any other style of lifting apart from the odd bit about Smolov or Korte and some other Russian style lifting. It was dominated by Westside and conjugate stuff. One of the oldest sites out there was: http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/ And that page is still up, and you can see it's mostly conjugate Westside stuff. I think these things are popular in swings and roundabouts. It just so happened that Westside managed to ride that wave very well, up to the point where if someone on the internet thought Powerlifting they thought Westside. Now we're seeing the inevitable backlash against it. It was always going to happen. I don't think it was ever that popular as it was in the States, so much of the backlash is from inside the States like this Smith guy and Lilly a few months ago. | ||
| MaxCooper | | ... | 30-03-2013 @ 10:40 |
 1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | 1369phil said: The distance the bar moves (look at the straps) is minuscule on those squats allthough i believe that westside isnt the best system for raw lifters two points must be made for this 1) the bar travel has no relation to how good a squat is, infact why not minimise the distance the weight moves 2) pretty much every system MUST be adapted to what suits the lifter which means people saying strictly follow ANY system and it be 'optional' is a flawed arguement | ||
| rob0210 | | ... | 30-03-2013 @ 10:40 |
Member 1723, 821 posts SQ 280, BP 200, DL 330810.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | True, there's surely only a handful of multiply guys outside of the US. A lot of the stuff regarding technique, exercise selection, assistance work etc is universal though and can be applied regardless of how you lift. Considering all the BS thats on the web these days you could start off in much worse places | ||