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FruitbatIconThe return of the Bat30-04-2007 @ 20:34 
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SQ 135, BP 70, DL 147.5
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Post Edited: 01.03.2008 @ 21:16 PM by Fruitbat
Ok I am not a fixture with Sugden cos I sort of live out in wales which makes making Sugden gym a bit difficult. Some of you may have occasionally seen me in your gym if I come up to Manc on a weekend and come in with Joni to train. Anyway I have always kept a training log on veganfitness but there arent a lot of powerlifters around there (yes another vegan to swell the vegan ranks of Sugden Wink ) - in fact there is trend more towards strongman than powerlifting these days so I thought after my awesome experience at the NW open 2007 unequipped comp I should start a log on here for a wider input on my training because you Sugden people were so friendly at the comp.

OK stats are:
Female
Weight 65k (oscillates between 63 and 66)
Age 23 (in 4 days)
PL experience: been training 12months after taking PLing as a focus rather than vague free weight training of no clear kind. My first comp was the NW Open Unequipped yesterday.

My aims for this year were:
SQ 80k (reached that in training up for this comp so now I would like to reach 100k by next NW Open)
BP 60k ( a long way to go - very ambitious)
DL 130 (2xBW)

I do have the slight "problem" that I am sports mad and thereby am not dedicated to powerlifting alone... I run for adventure races, I cycle for sports and exercise science tests studying anaerobic "stuff", I swim daily out of enjoyment, I love doing BW exercises and gymnastics (as an ex-gymnast).

Problems with my lifts:

SQ - I do very narrow stance but am much weaker and more uncomfortable with wide stance so I dont know if it is worth widening it or not. With narrow stance I do have the obvous problem of falling forward a bit - esp as I carry the bar high on my shoulders

BP - again very narrow grip but in progress of widening it. I dont keep the tension at the bottom of my bench during the pause either

DL - awful form, not explosive, not enough glute action and struggle to lock out. In fact the only good thing about my DL is my grip!
RobIcon...30-04-2007 @ 20:39 
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Good luck with the training Karen, I think you have loads of potential especially as you seem so enthusiastic.

The form problems you mentioned are pretty typical for all beginner powerlifters, I'm sure you'll sort them out soon if you manage to train with other lifters or put videos up for form advice.
tokarIcon...30-04-2007 @ 20:57 
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I'm sorry to say I missed most of your lifts yesterday, but I'm looking forward to reading your log! I definitely think you should bring your squat stance out a bit for starters. And I am very much in favour of narrow stance squatting. Wink
FruitbatIcon...30-04-2007 @ 22:16 
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Originally posted by tokar...
I definitely think you should bring your squat stance out a bit for starters. And I am very much in favour of narrow stance squatting. Wink
Do you mean I should bring out my squat stance even though you are in favour of a narrow stance or that I should maybe bring out my bench grip but keep the squat stance narrow?
big49ersfanIcon...30-04-2007 @ 22:42 
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good luck might see you down the sugden. i play alot of rugby in the season my lifting generally goes to s**t but if i bother to eat enough then lifting can actually improve the sports will effect recovery but if you leanr how to heal quicker i.e. diet, massage, showers etc you should find with commitment lifts will be fine.
RickIcon...30-04-2007 @ 22:59 
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I also like narrow stance squats and benches, but - like JT says - not quite as narrow as yours are! You'll get a lot of benefit from getting out just a little further, gradually.

Very impressive first comp, well done!
tokarIcon...30-04-2007 @ 23:30 
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Originally posted by Fruitbat...
Originally posted by tokar...
I definitely think you should bring your squat stance out a bit for starters. And I am very much in favour of narrow stance squatting. Wink
Do you mean I should bring out my squat stance even though you are in favour of a narrow stance or that I should maybe bring out my bench grip but keep the squat stance narrow?


Rick knows my thinking, you see - narrow is good, but perhaps not quite that narrow! Wink
FruitbatIcon...01-05-2007 @ 09:31 
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ah i get ya! Well going wide grip on bench is fine by me - sore pecs after wider grip bench yesterday but was really strong with 50k shooting up. Wider stance squats on the other hand Confused I tried some really light wide squats yesterday and I was so weak and I am so sore today!!!! I might widen my stance a bit but keep it pretty narrow!

Actually I said I was starting a log and havent posted my yesterday's workout DUH!
FruitbatIcon...01-05-2007 @ 13:02 
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Post Edited: 01.05.2007 @ 13:11 PM
Joni suggested I post my com video for prosperity sake:



OK so : Monday

(Swim 60 lengths in morning)

Gym
Gym session aims: volume week - bench and squats

Bench with wider grip about an extra hand each side - all paused reps:
5x40k
5x45k
5,5,4,3,4x50k
(DOMS!!!)

Dips
10xBW
10xBW+2.5k
8xBW+5k
(first time I have added weight in dips but have wanted to for ages)

EZ bar work overhead press (explanantion for isolation exercises - my training partner is into bodybuilding so the deal is I do some BB stuff with him as sort of accessory exercises and he will support and spot me on the PL stuff )
10x15k
6x20k
10x20k

Wide-stance squats just go get a feel for how weird they are:
3x5x40k
this felt really heavy whereas its laughable weight for me normally. This was like Joni-style wide stance squats so maybe I will go for more of a compromise on the wider stance - like a few inches wider than at present more than like a straddle! I have some serious DOMS in a very unusual part of my glutes today from those.

Abs:
50 slow situps
25 slow side to side situps


The session was a great session and then when I finished the squats suddenly i was so tired. My benching was really strong - wider grip made it feel stronger and I am sure I will be pushing out some new PBs real soon
JoniIcon...01-05-2007 @ 13:10 
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solid benching just a day after your comp, crazy woman!
tokarIcon...01-05-2007 @ 18:20 
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I only mean a few inches on the squat stance - no need for that Westside style nonsense!
JoniIcon...01-05-2007 @ 20:02 
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Originally posted by tokar...
no need for that Westside style nonsense!


oi! I am reading this log!
FruitbatIcon...01-05-2007 @ 21:05 
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hehehe its just squatting you guys Wink

Tuesday

Swim 100

Gym session: deadlifting

Deadlifts:
5x70k
5x90k
3x1x110k

Rack pullouts
5x70k
5x90k
3x110k
2x120k
1x130k
fx140k
2x140k

Lat pulldowns:
5x45k
5x55k
3x65k

Handstand practice

Leg raises

Stretching big-time (amazingly still flexible)


I was quite pleased with my session today. As usual my deads werent all that strong but I was trying to get the take-off explosive. I was really pleased with my rack pullouts. Very tired no- I think I will be very sore tomorrow!
littlegirlbunnyIcon...01-05-2007 @ 22:21 
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What height do you do your rack pulls from?
FruitbatIcon...01-05-2007 @ 22:33 
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i would have liked to do them from just below the knees but we didnt have anything big enough for me to stand on or a rack low enough so it ended up being from just above the knees - but thats ok cos its the last locking out bit from just above the knees that I struggle on!

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