up'd my calories body reacting wierd advice?
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| little_jay |  | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 21:59 |
Member 1830, 404 posts | according to the docs its come from the calories and high protein. like a said though, everyones different, everyones body acts different to different stuff. | ||
| dr_hazbun | | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 22:36 |
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq | what is happening to your bowel habit? | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 07:47 |
 Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | I suspect, as I had a similar situation a couple of years back, you've gotten hold of one of those god awefull dead sweet cheap high calorie/carb drinks from ebay in a big tub. I put loads of weight on, mostly a fat belly and felt crap in the same way as you describe. I suspect you are reacting to the high sugar content. Cut those drinks down to 1 a day max and see how you feel. Or better still, eat a better food based diet with some protein shakes thrown in. | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 09:57 |
 he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I also found when I had my calories much higher I had many of the same symptoms. I was having a lot of shakes, and bulking them op with oats. It set off acid reflux, which caused more mucus production. I was more prone to cramps and had a broken sleep pattern. I removed oats completely from my diet, and reduced my shakes and concentrated on eating more solid foods, and all the symptoms have stopped. I am finding it hard to keep the calories high from whole foods though, it is more expensive and time consuming, so I have lost a fair bit of weight. I found 5g a day of taurine cured the cramps, but I dont need it now either. Its hard to know what to do without being you and feeling the difference changing different parts of the diet makes. It could also just be that you are tired because you are training hard, carrying more weight, digesting more food etc and your body is having to adjust. | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:26 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | I don't think ya need 4000 calories from shakes + food to "maintain body weight and add a little muscle" you're 98kg not 160!! Just going to get fat IMO | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:31 |
 my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | Post Edited: 13.11.2010 @ 10:31 AM by JamesH http://crab.rutgers.edu/~alroche/3beefcake.gif 4000kcal from shakes is huge and seems excessive, especially for someone your size. If it's a weight gainer, it may well also be fairly cheap, simple carbs. If I were you I'd sit down and work out: 1. What your actual intake in a day is - not just kcal, but carbs, protein, fats, fibre, micronutrients 2. What it needs to be to grow at an acceptable rate 3. What solid food you need to eat to get there. Liquid calories should be an addition to help you make up the balance. | ||
| milsy | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:33 |
 Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | shanejer said:I don't think ya need 4000 calories from shakes + food to "maintain body weight and add a little muscle" you're 98kg not 160!! Just going to get fat IMO im walking round at about 102 at the min with lowish body fat i work from 6 in morning till 4.30 doing pretty physical work then i go train for around 2 hours most nite then im between 2 houses at minute so i get over to 1 0r other between 9-10 so im pretty much non stop all time i eat alot to maintain anyway as in food and whey isolate and now my traing has picked up iv up'd my calories | ||
| just_t | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:34 |
 Mr.Fit Member 164, 5028 posts SQ 170, BP 135, DL 230535.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 13.11.2010 @ 10:34 AM by just_t milsy said: im walking round at about 102 at the min with lowish body fat i work from 6 in morning till 4.30 doing pretty physical work then i go train for around 2 hours most nite then im between 2 houses at minute so i get over to 1 0r other between 9-10 so im pretty much non stop all time i eat alot to maintain anyway as in food and whey isolate and now my traing has picked up iv up'd my calories What is the weight-gainer you are using? How many Kcal you consume from food alone? | ||
| milsy | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:37 |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | JamesH said:http://crab.rutgers.edu/~alroche/3beefcake.gif haha that pics ace my diet is pretty solid anyway the drinks are just a tempory supplement to my diet to work in with my program that is coming to a peak will only be doing this for three weeks then im back on isolate | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:39 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | ah fair enough i know what y a mean about the physical work with long days, hard to gain weight, If you're at lowish BF and not gaining any BF then keep them in mate....... | ||
| milsy | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 10:44 |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | tba now iv added it all up with the oats i add and everything and got a better figure its more like 2800-3000 which when looking at it seems more realistic sorry for messing people about | ||
| strange1 | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 12:17 |
 Member 535, 618 posts SQ 267.5, BP 140, DL 275682.5 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | similar happened to me last year and a bb mate of mine told me to add some udos oil to one of my rice meals and it helped shed loads | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 12:33 |
my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | milsy said:tba now iv added it all up with the oats i add and everything and got a better figure its more like 2800-3000 That sounds more realistic, though it's still a lot. Using oats is a good move though. As davy said, extra 'good' fats help. Just 1 tbsp of olive oil (for example) has about 100 kcal. You can easily add calories to a meal this way (e.g. in a pasta sauce). Peanut butter is also nice. | ||
| tlast2O12dude | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 13:27 |
 Obvious Juicer Member 1613, 1036 posts SQ 185, BP 140, DL 220545.0 kgs @ 66kgs UnEq | milsy said:i have recently upd' my calories with a pretty big jump im getting in around 4000 aday in shaks alone and all food ontop to maintain my bw and add abit of muscle only problem is my memory is all over the place i feel tired all the time and i wake up like every 2hours in the nite plus im getting alot more cramps but i am getting stronger everyweek does all this stuff happen to everyone or is it just me i have the same issues, it's due to high intensity training and lack of rest. | ||
| Matspence | | ... | 13-11-2010 @ 18:20 |
 Member 1391, 693 posts | The best advise that anyone can give you is you ness to eat and drink to your needs, there is no point in eating and using supplements like a 25 stone monster if your only 13 stone because it's excessive, the strongmen on telly have massive amounts of calls a day because there bodys nee that amount the same goes with water, iv changed my diet a little I'm actually eating less and i'm still throwing on weight, I have three full meals, two snacks and a shake before bed, my strength is still going up but I'm loosing fat and still putting on weight, iv put on over a stone again in about six week I'm now 19.4 and at the rate I'm lobbing on weight will be closer to 21 at Xmas, I'm eating clean meat and veg pluss my pasta or rice no bread as it bloats me up, tin o tuna or chest as a snack and about two pints of milk a day with about two to three lts of water a day, I also have a day were I will have a beer or two but no moor, but if your only 98kg you need to be eating just over your needs so your adding weight but not massive amounts of fat, you do need massive amounts of calls to grow and big protine too but what your body will use and need like I said there is a reason why big tell etc eat like they do it's because they need it to keep there weight up, you don't Mat | ||