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unit94Icon...15-05-2014 @ 18:36 
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You're jumping forward abit mate, it looks like having your head down is stopping you finishing your pull.
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 18:38 
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Chig is a reasonable example I think

[Img]http://store.hookgrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/chigishev...
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 18:42 
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unit94 said:You're jumping forward abit mate, it looks like having your head down is stopping you finishing your pull.


I'm not finishing my pull, not because of that though.
AndyCoupeIcon...15-05-2014 @ 19:47 
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His levers get the bar up.
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VanillaGorilla said:Chig is a reasonable example I think

[Img]http://store.hookgrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/chigishev...

He is looking up though whereas you are looking at the floor.

Maybe it will work for you, only time will tell! It will be interesting to see how it develops.
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 19:59 
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Post Edited: 15.05.2014 @ 20:02 PM by VanillaGorilla
Yes he's also not working from a top down hang Roll-Eyes

It was more a demonstration of a more neutral spine position compared to 'typical' lifters than where he was looking.

Edit: That reads as being a bit pissy, it's not lol Grin
AndyCoupeIcon...15-05-2014 @ 20:21 
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VanillaGorilla said:Yes he's also not working from a top down hang Roll-Eyes

It was more a demonstration of a more neutral spine position compared to 'typical' lifters than where he was looking.

Edit: That reads as being a bit pissy, it's not lol Grin


Crack on then Grin
VanillaGorillaIcon...16-05-2014 @ 17:45 
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Friday 16/05/2014

Squats
135kg x 5
135kg x 5
135kg x 5

Bench press
115kg x 5
115kg x 5
115kg x 5

Barbell row
105kg x 5
105kg x 5
105kg x 5

Dips x 10
Pull ups x 10
Sit ups x 10

Everything up again. Squats in particular were hard, load is increasing but they're just not getting any easier!
VanillaGorillaIcon...20-05-2014 @ 13:01 
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Tuesday 20/05/2014

Snatch Balance
40kg x 3
40kg x 3
50kg x 3
50kg x 3
60kg x 3
60kg x 3
70kg x 3
70kg x 3

Snatch
50kg x 2
50kg x 2
60kg x 2
60kg x 2
70kg x 2
70kg x 2
80kg x 2
80kg x 2

BTN Snatch press
40kg x 10

Pretty good today, good stability in my left shoulder on the receive. One or two power snatches ridden down in amongst that lot, including an 80kg.
JohnGymIcon...21-05-2014 @ 11:25 
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I have a question Mr Gorilla, which I don't believe requires it's own thread but I would like to know your opinion on the matter.

Do you think Deadlifting with straps alters the muscles used during heavy Deadlift reps?
VanillaGorillaIcon...21-05-2014 @ 15:15 
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JohnGym said:I have a question Mr Gorilla, which I don't believe requires it's own thread but I would like to know your opinion on the matter.

Do you think Deadlifting with straps alters the muscles used during heavy Deadlift reps?


In a nutshell, yes. Happy

Assuming you're talking about staggered grip versus double overhand with straps, the difference in your upper and middle back is significant.
VanillaGorillaIcon...21-05-2014 @ 15:17 
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Wednesday 21/05/2014

Warmed up. Generally tired, tight, sore and 'meh' for want of a better word.

I'm really in tune with my body at the moment so no qualms in ditching the session, going to go fishing for a couple of hours in the evening sunshine instead I think.
JohnGymIcon...21-05-2014 @ 15:26 
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VanillaGorilla said:
In a nutshell, yes. Happy
Assuming you're talking about staggered grip versus double overhand with straps, the difference in your upper and middle back is significant.


So the emphasis on upper and middle back muscle increases with a DOH with strap grip versus a staggered grip and therefore, emphasis on erectors, stil significant, is reduced?
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So the emphasis on upper and middle back muscle increases with a DOH with strap grip versus a staggered grip and therefore, emphasis on erectors, stil significant, is reduced?


Ah I was talking more about asymmetry due to humeral rotation
VanillaGorillaIcon...22-05-2014 @ 17:17 
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Post Edited: 22.05.2014 @ 17:17 PM by VanillaGorilla
Thursday 22/05/2014

Front squat
115kg x 5
115kg x 5
115kg x 5

Push press
97.5kg x 5
97.5kg x 5
97.5kg x 5

Deadlift
175kg x 5
175kg x 5
175kg x 5

Dips x 10
Pull ups x 10
Sit ups x 10

Great call to jack in yesterdays session and do it today instead, went very well indeed Happy
MrSmallIcon...22-05-2014 @ 18:02 
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Post Edited: 22.05.2014 @ 18:02 PM by MrSmall
Nothing wrong with a neutral back (arguably strongest/healthiest position) on pulls, snatch, clean. You can't do it on power jerks and squat jerks as you need more weight back so you need to arch out for balance.

snatch catch
http://26k6hw2r4n5l2etfld4mgwh1a80.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-...

jerk catch
http://kaw.stb.s-msn.com/i/6A/6058E3493C9E701D98AEA7C08CAA20.j...

pull with flat back, head up but without involving the cervical spine (the head is supposed to be able to tilt and rotate 'independently' to the spine)
http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/thumbnailfull/lu-xiaojun-2009-1...

clean catch
http://www.redrivercrossfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Wei...

Now Lu has exceptional flexibility to get into these awesome positions but I think it loads the body better. Just its not easy to do.

Your second pulls are a bit messed up so you are offbalance, which pulls you further forward, so on the first rep you just recover from there and jump forward to compensate, and on the second one you catch forward and then at the bottom adjust by shifting backwards. You also might be lacking in the mobility to get into this positions in any way but to "sink" into them which just won't happen with heavy weights as you need to get there instantly. But I can't say for sure there.

Just some extra ingredients for your weightlifting stew, Dave.

Looking good for the 77s next year! Grin

For a moment I thought you were comparing your technique to Chigishev's and I was wondering if you were really Paul Savage's alter ego. Since you are better technically and lighter than ever so you will be faster, no reason why you can't hit a 150kg snatch this year.

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