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Funky_monkeyIcon...07-05-2014 @ 14:37 
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VanillaGorilla said:Next stop, Hench-urch Street...

Oh dear. I'm not sorry though.

Grin


Tube rage at King's CROSS apparently.

Puts your hands together and Clapham (north, south or junction) for my terrible puns - they're Morden bad!
VanillaGorillaIcon...08-05-2014 @ 17:39 
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Thursday 08/05/2014

Squat
132.5kg x 5
132.5kg x 5
132.5kg x 5

Bench press
112.5kg x 5
112.5kg x 5
112.5kg x 5

Barbell row
100kg x 5
100kg x 5
100kg x 5

Dips x 10
Pull ups x 10
Sit ups x 10


Inching forwards Happy
VanillaGorillaIcon...12-05-2014 @ 19:00 
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Monday 12/05/2014

Snatch Balance
30kg x 3
30kg x 3
40kg x 3
40kg x 3
50kg x 3
50kg x 3
55kg x 3
55kg x 3
60kg x 3
60kg x 3
65kg x 3
65kg x 3

Low hang snatch
40kg x 2
40kg x 2
50kg x 2
50kg x 2
60kg x 2
60kg x 2
70kg x 2
70kg x 2
75kg x 2
75kg x 2

BTN Snatch press
50kg x 10
50kg x 10
50kg x 10

DB Laterals
10kg x 10
10kg x 10
10kg x 10


Good session. Consistency between reps is improving, as is the stability in my shoulder, allowing me to pull under better. I'm still catching high and riding down but it's improving.
VanillaGorillaIcon...12-05-2014 @ 22:07 
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Post Edited: 12.05.2014 @ 22:09 PM by VanillaGorilla
Some stuff from today, not very good really, but shoulder stability and range is ever improving, which is allowing me to pull under better. Bit scrappy but I'm getting there.

65kgx3


75kgx2
OwenLIcon...12-05-2014 @ 22:35 
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maybe personal preference and may work for you, but how come you dont keep your head up during your snatches mate? might benefit you.
VanillaGorillaIcon...12-05-2014 @ 23:08 
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I'm a believer in neutral spine in all movements where possible dude, from deadlifts to squats to cleans. I think people forget that the position of cervical spine has mechanical implications in the upper and middle back, so try to maintain neutral. I teach my athletes the same way too.
VanillaGorillaIcon...13-05-2014 @ 19:01 
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Tuesday 13/05/2014

Front squat
112.5kg x 5
112.5kg x 5
112.5kg x 5

Push Press
95kg x 5
95kg x 5
95kg x 5

Deadlift
170kg x 5
170kg x 5
170kg x 5

Dips x 10
Pull ups x 10
Sit ups x 10

Everything up, FS up 2.5, PP up 5 and DL up 10. While the DL were pretty good, I must be a little more conservative to ensure my shoulder becomes accustomed to heavy loads again. Still, happy with that!
bezaIcon...14-05-2014 @ 19:33 
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Purely out of curiosity, as I'm sure everything you do in your routine has good reason, what's your reason for 10 sit ups? Daft question probably but can't see much benefit and would like to lol
AndyCoupeIcon...14-05-2014 @ 19:41 
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OwenL said:maybe personal preference and may work for you, but how come you dont keep your head up during your snatches mate? might benefit you.


I also thought this.

But if it works for you then crack on.
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 15:52 
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beza said:Purely out of curiosity, as I'm sure everything you do in your routine has good reason, what's your reason for 10 sit ups? Daft question probably but can't see much benefit and would like to lol


That little group of movements is just tonget a few reps in at the end of a session. As my work capacity increases this will gradually increase to 2 and 3 run throughs. And yes, I do find them hard! Grin
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 15:55 
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AndyCoupe said:
OwenL said:maybe personal preference and may work for you, but how come you dont keep your head up during your snatches mate? might benefit you.


I also thought this.

But if it works for you then crack on.


Perhaps a better question would be, why would you purposefully put your spine in a compromised position? You wouldn't do it with squats or pulls. Or perhaps you would, but I wouldn't. There's been a fair old bit of evolution go into the very specific position of a neutralnspine to absorb load and remain fixed in order to exert skeletal muscle force. Why on earth would I want to change it?!
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 15:58 
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Thursday 15/05/2014

BTN Jerk
40kg x 2
40kg x 2
50kg x 2
50kg x 2
60kg x 2
60kg x 2
70kg x 2
70kg x 2
80kg x 2
80kg x 2
90kg x 2
90kg x 2
100kg x 2
100kg x 2

BTN pulldowns
65kg x 10
65kg x 10
65kg x 10

Quick session today, 25 minutes. I wish we had jerk boxes Grin
AndyCoupeIcon...15-05-2014 @ 17:56 
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VanillaGorilla said:
Perhaps a better question would be, why would you purposefully put your spine in a compromised position? You wouldn't do it with squats or pulls. Or perhaps you would, but I wouldn't. There's been a fair old bit of evolution go into the very specific position of a neutralnspine to absorb load and remain fixed in order to exert skeletal muscle force. Why on earth would I want to change it?!


I tried it with a broomstick today and it felt like the neutral position uses a lot more back rather than leg power? I could never imagine snatching anything heavy with that position. With my head up it felt like I was using mostly legs.

You obviously know what your on about but why aren't the top weightlifters doing it?
VanillaGorillaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 18:25 
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AndyCoupe said:
I tried it with a broomstick today and it felt like the neutral position uses a lot more back rather than leg power? I could never imagine snatching anything heavy with that position. With my head up it felt like I was using mostly legs.
You obviously know what your on about but why aren't the top weightlifters doing it?


That's an interesting assertion. My earlier comment regarding cervical position and the relationship to the upper and middle back mechanics springs to mind. My back is and always has been one of my strongest synnergistic muscle groups, so moving like this may well feel a lot more comfortable for me than others.

I'm not saying my way is the best way, or even the right way. From my knowledge, the opinion of some coaches I respect and several papers on cervical spine position (predominantly based on 'stacking' strength theories and trap engagement / stability in whiplash injuries) I believe it is both the best and right way. As ever though I am always open to suggestion, hence arriving at this conclusion. Doing something because others do is never enough for me, I like to question things, much to a lot of people's annoyance Grin

Which brings me onto the question about why not many top lifters lift this way. Probably a lot more than you think do, often the first pull is led with a 'head up' position, but further into the lift the head is quite often moving back to neutral. A few side on videos and careful pausing show this (except Dymas' head flinging!) although perhaps not to the extent I do, it certainly moves away from the initial observation of a craned neck. Having said that I'm not currently snatching from the floor so it will be interesting to see what happens without a top down hang set up.
bezaIcon...15-05-2014 @ 18:32 
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VanillaGorilla said:
That little group of movements is just tonget a few reps in at the end of a session. As my work capacity increases this will gradually increase to 2 and 3 run throughs. And yes, I do find them hard! Grin


Thanks for the reply mate

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