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liljohn		novice training help	19-11-2012 @ 15:32
Member 4013, 131 posts SQ 190, BP 115, DL 215 520.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	Hi guys I have started training again. Used to about 4year ago. Had a couple event sessions with JC, joni and millsey. But anyway wabting to train again and this time do it properly. I'm 26, will be hitting junction gym for events etc. But after some advice on training for a new lifter. I've been told full body. Twice a week and events. Time is a factor however.been told a session at 5x3 or 5x5 then second at 3x10 same weight for each set. I was told standing shoulder press bent row or pendlay row or d/b row deadlifts chest press squats Rotate squat and deads each week. Does that sound about right for first year of training?

Terminator		...	19-11-2012 @ 17:28
jerking is obviously great, Member 2521, 4722 posts SQ 235, BP 160, DL 290 685.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq	For a complete newbie, I would recommend Starting Strength or Stronglifts 5 x 5. I don't think training events is worth it until you've established a decent base level of strength

liljohn		...	19-11-2012 @ 17:33
Member 4013, 131 posts SQ 190, BP 115, DL 215 520.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	Granted my lifts are low Squat is 100kg dead 120kg push press 65kg. Lots of training needed yet. Been training at home but equipment I have is only to 110kg anyway and think gym enviroment be good again.

RyanDodz		...	19-11-2012 @ 17:36
Member 3480, 96 posts SQ 210, BP 130, DL 290 630.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	I'm new-ish to Strongman myself, but I train 3 days a week 1.Deadlifts + accessories (biceps / back) 2.Pressing + tricep work 3. Events day Adding an extra day for a squat only day soon. If I was you, I would do the events days! Get a decent feel of the events, equipment and work on technique over and over on each event. Nail the technique at a ligher weight that way when you actually lift heavy (which is relative to the person) you will find it easier & less injury prone

paddymc1986		...	19-11-2012 @ 17:47
dieting is not the way to go Member 1539, 5526 posts SQ 330, BP 230, DL 350 910.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq	RyanDodz said:I'm new-ish to Strongman myself, but I train 3 days a week 1.Deadlifts + accessories (biceps / back) 2.Pressing + tricep work 3. Events day Adding an extra day for a squat only day soon. If I was you, I would do the events days! Get a decent feel of the events, equipment and work on technique over and over on each event. Nail the technique at a ligher weight that way when you actually lift heavy (which is relative to the person) you will find it easier & less injury prone why not do squats with deads if your going to train that way

RyanDodz		...	19-11-2012 @ 17:57
Member 3480, 96 posts SQ 210, BP 130, DL 290 630.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	paddymc1986 said: why not do squats with deads if your going to train that way Sometimes I do mate, Just never consistent with the squats - hence the solo dedicated squatting day

Simon_T		...	19-11-2012 @ 18:01
wales Member 1058, 5361 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 294 654.0 kgs @ 106kgs UnEq	FrankieNY 5x5 and JV Askems routine worked well for me.


jones105		.....	19-11-2012 @ 18:55
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300 730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq	RyanDodz said:I'm new-ish to Strongman myself, but I train 3 days a week 1.Deadlifts + accessories (biceps / back) 2.Pressing + tricep work 3. Events day Adding an extra day for a squat only day soon. If I was you, I would do the events days! Get a decent feel of the events, equipment and work on technique over and over on each event. Nail the technique at a ligher weight that way when you actually lift heavy (which is relative to the person) you will find it easier & less injury prone I don't quite agree with this.I agree with terminator....get ur strength up 1st.events will vary in every comp so don't see the point in drilling events.maybe you could do them twice a month and do more common events like,yoke,farmers,stones...or evan put some medly's together,to work on conditioning..? This is just what I would do mate...as I don't plan on competeing till june/july next year,I'm taking a lil break from events to concentrate on static,and conditioning and weaknesses...

DomRedshaw		...	19-11-2012 @ 19:00
Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255 627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq	Terminator said:For a complete newbie, I would recommend Starting Strength or Stronglifts 5 x 5. I don't think training events is worth it until you've established a decent base level of strength id agree with this pretty much. id add events once your more used to the workload of ur gym lifting. or do light events for technique and speed work also maybe have a look into 5/3/1 boring but big template.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	19-11-2012 @ 19:07
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22063 posts	1st step - get a year of decent gym training under your belt.

liljohn		...	19-11-2012 @ 20:02
Member 4013, 131 posts SQ 190, BP 115, DL 215 520.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	Deffinatly conditioning with medley stuff etc would be good for me. Even oif doing events light will it not help to build strength? I understand a good year of solid lifting will be good. Get some static strength up.

DomRedshaw		...	19-11-2012 @ 20:10
Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255 627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq	it wud depend how light and how new to lifting you are. apparently beginners can gain strength using loads as little as 40% of max, advanced from 75% to 85% load of 1rm.

liljohn		...	19-11-2012 @ 20:13
Member 4013, 131 posts SQ 190, BP 115, DL 215 520.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	I used to lift rregular for about 3 years. Foolish in how I lifted tho. Then for about 4 years I was off and on and never really did anything. I have now been lifting again getting consistant for couple of months.

samevans		...	19-11-2012 @ 23:09
just got PM'd Member 1945, 685 posts	Post Edited: 19.11.2012 @ 23:12 PM by samevans if you wanna do events Monday/Day one squat 5x5 bench 5x5 bent over row 5x5 abs Wednesday/day two Strict 3x3 dead 3x3 chins 5 sets till failure abs Saturday/day 3 events including one overhead, one moving, one loading deload when tired Otherwise stronglifts Im going to respectfully disagree with some folk and say if you wanna do events at this point it might be no bad thing IF you wanna go into strongman as its just more time under the bar and in a good environment at that. just take it easy to start with and deload enough

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