The effects of pain killers on strength/ muscle ?

This is my thinking.

Brownbear, I know a biochemist who used to head up a pharmakokinetics department at a big pharma company. He was very much against me using NSAIDS for any prolonged duration without caution.

For pain relief he recommended alternating ibuprofen and paracetamol purely because of the effect of ibuprofen on the stomach.

If painkillers used pre workout are likely to allow us to do more physically as force 10 suggests, are they used commonly in other forms of strenuous physical actiity or is it only applicable to strength training?

f**k your stomach lining !!

Its a side issue i don`t wanna know about.


FORGET NSAIDS for a moment and lets move on to "Opiates" if we can !


Can an Heroin Addict become a strength athlete ?????

Frightful amount of athletes come out of the other side of their careers DRUG ADDICTS

Probably not so much of a problem in strength sports because nobody gives a s**t so alot less mental stress is caused

Famous athletes often look for drugs as an outlet from the reality of everyday pressure

i read that alot of athletes start with mild opiates for an injury but then enjoy the release start borrowing a few tablets of team mates etc then start looking for stronger opiates

its true that if you have money its far easier to get hold of heroin than it would be to get even co-codamol

I have been taking excessive amounts of codeine , co codimol , nurafen, ibuprofen for the last 7 weeks and not trained , whent to the gym today and strength the same realy if it is a little down I would put it down to not goin to the gym for 7 weeks , not taking "sups" alot and not been able to eat alot .

ed my man, ibuprofen and diclofenac are both NSAIDS so can cause ulcers in the stomach for the same reason, but evidence suggests the risk is different with different ones. Docs are however not allowed to prescribe diclofenac anymore, i think evidence shows a 4x increase in heart attack and such

Very interesting point - in the very short term, would be nice to think it'd make it work fine again.

That's fair enough, i can't see any harm in alternating the two but even then why take ibuprofen for its pain relieving properties when paracetamol is a pretty good pain killer.

This stuff made going to the toilet abit of a bad experience when I was prescribed them, didnt even finish the course felt like they were destroying my stomach!

I think my point was, you can hide the pain of an injured muscle and work through it, but it's not going to work any better than if you DIDN'T hide the pain and just got on with it, moving as quickly and forcefully as you possibly can giving no regard to the pain.

I'm not advocating that you SHOULD do that and train through injuries, but if you are going to, why add aditional risks with painkillers? If you want to be more comfortable, stay at home and rest! If you want to train through an injury, feel the pain that's there, it's important that you know about it.

Well he much prefers ibuprofen for relief of things like headaches but wont risk taking them in any real quantities because of the risk of stomach problems, hence the alternating.

Thanks , that's what I suspected . I was prescribed dioflenac back in 2004 and was on maximum dose for nearly 2 years . No one mentioned increased risk of heart attack.

It is only a recent revelation, the evidence came to light end of 2012 I believe

Its strange how some people get bent out of shape over the posibility of a stomarch ulcer from ibuprofen yet dont give a second thought to the dangers to thier helth when taking PED's or even smoking and binge drinking at a weekend.

That doesn't describe a single person posting in this thread.