Strongman entry fees
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| EDCLARKE |  | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:33 |
 not particularly well educated Member 85, 10990 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Fazc said:Would higher fees = more moaning? without a f**king doubt it would. | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:34 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | EDCLARKE said: Im amazed you are so against a promoter making money , why shouldnt he get something for his efforts , why are you making the assumption that just because a promoter tries to make a few quid he is not honest and genuine. Also i would say its great that you helped out and loaded and without people like yourself it would be very difficult to put on comps , but you cannot compare spending a day loading with all the time and effort it takes to organise and put on competitions. Surely if there is something in it for promoters you are only going to get better comps . i guess thinking about it, i'm not that against promotors making money, but for example when i loaded at SA, I got to OSG at 8am, loaded kit in to the van, drove to SA with the other guys (70 miles each way), set up the kit, loaded through day, put kit back at end of day etc. End up getting home at 8pm. That's a full day and some for eight guys, who do it for free. Is the promotor doing eight full days labour to organise a comp? fair play, if he is then he deserves to make some money. Another point, if the promotor is making money then the comp itself better be damn well perfect. | ||
| shortandmighty | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:36 |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Surely if there is something in it for promoters you are only going to get better comps . A truer word has never been spoken. That way you attract professional promotion companies that are only focused on putting on a quality show because their business depends on it! | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:43 |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | shortandmighty said:Surely if there is something in it for promoters you are only going to get better comps . A truer word has never been spoken. That way you attract professional promotion companies that are only focused on putting on a quality show because their business depends on it! essentially putting on a great show means you can have bigger crowds, better sponsors and better coverage.... so everyone gets a slice of the pie, promotor included  | ||
| jones105 | | ...... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:45 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3586 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | brownbear said: i guess thinking about it, i'm not that against promotors making money, but for example when i loaded at SA, I got to OSG at 8am, loaded kit in to the van, drove to SA with the other guys (70 miles each way), set up the kit, loaded through day, put kit back at end of day etc. End up getting home at 8pm. That's a full day and some for eight guys, who do it for free. Is the promotor doing eight full days labour to organise a comp? fair play, if he is then he deserves to make some money. Another point, if the promotor is making money then the comp itself better be damn well perfect. imo its an equal contribution on the day,but weeks before a promotor has to sort things out,arrange venue,kit,sponsors,travel to meetings,phone/petrol costs etc etc...this is what I did anyway... I couldn't have put on the show without the boys loading and reffin.and would of helped with setting up of my leg was not in plaster...its about wrking together.. | ||
| jones105 | | ...... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:48 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3586 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | brownbear said: i guess thinking about it, i'm not that against promotors making money, but for example when i loaded at SA, I got to OSG at 8am, loaded kit in to the van, drove to SA with the other guys (70 miles each way), set up the kit, loaded through day, put kit back at end of day etc. End up getting home at 8pm. That's a full day and some for eight guys, who do it for free. Is the promotor doing eight full days labour to organise a comp? fair play, if he is then he deserves to make some money. Another point, if the promotor is making money then the comp itself better be damn well perfect. imo its an equal contribution on the day,but weeks before a promotor has to sort things out,arrange venue,kit,sponsors,travel to meetings,phone/petrol costs etc etc...this is what I did anyway... I couldn't have put on the show without the boys loading and reffin.and would of helped with setting up of my leg was not in plaster...its about wrking together.. Looking at it from both sides of the coin..makeing a small profit is fine..maybe put a bit in you pocket,buy the boys some food?? But going purely for profit,I don't agree with that | ||
| CJR | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:48 |
 Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq | Surely if these comps were ran as proposed i.e. in order for the promoter to make money, then loaders and helpers would be paid as part of this. Also, I don't know much about strongman, but wouldn't a lot of these problems be made simpler if there was a UK governing body for the sport? What are the main difficulties with setting one up? | ||
| EDCLARKE | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:48 |
not particularly well educated Member 85, 10990 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | brownbear said: i guess thinking about it, i'm not that against promotors making money, but for example when i loaded at SA, I got to OSG at 8am, loaded kit in to the van, drove to SA with the other guys (70 miles each way), set up the kit, loaded through day, put kit back at end of day etc. End up getting home at 8pm. That's a full day and some for eight guys, who do it for free. Is the promotor doing eight full days labour to organise a comp? fair play, if he is then he deserves to make some money. Another point, if the promotor is making money then the comp itself better be damn well perfect. its unlikely to be perfect but I suspect you would get a general increase in quality. A day like that is a long day , i too have loaded at comps and if I'm honest Ive thoroughly enjoyed it , and if it was all s**t we probably wouldnt do it. I've never organised anything more than a gym comp,but even that takes a suprising ammount of time and effort , I wouldnt be at all suprised if a comp like the euro qualifier took at least 8 days when you added it all up. | ||
| shortandmighty | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:50 |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 21.04.2013 @ 11:52 AM by shortandmighty Also, I don't know much about strongman, but wouldn't a lot of these problems be made simpler if there was a UK governing body for the sport? What are the main difficulties with setting one up?This is a question that keeps cropping up and for one reason or another people seem to object to this idea. Is this not all part of evolution of sport. I know one promoter was trying to set one up for this year but there seemed to be a lot of negativity around it. | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:52 |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | shortandmighty said:Also, I don't know much about strongman, but wouldn't a lot of these problems be made simpler if there was a UK governing body for the sport? What are the main difficulties with setting one up? This is question that keeps cropping up and for one reason or another people seem to object to this idea. Is this not all part of evolution of sport. a good question | ||
| CJR | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:54 |
Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 21.04.2013 @ 11:54 AM by CJR shortandmighty said: This is a question that keeps cropping up and for one reason or another people seem to object to this idea. Is this not all part of evolution of sport. I know one promoter was trying to set one up for this year but there seemed to be a lot of negativity around it. What do people have against it? (No need to go in to detail, don't want to derail thread) | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:59 |
 Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | If you get one, you get others. | ||
| shortandmighty | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 11:59 |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | So if there was a governing body set up to aid with organising of comps, assisting with sponsors etc, setting out a definitive set of guidelines that each event would be judged by would people join it and would they be willing to pay a yearly subscription fee say £50 if that ensured there was a uniform scoring system with a downloadable score sheet template and then all results published on the governing body's website? | ||
| shortandmighty | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 12:05 |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | CJR said: What do people have against it? (No need to go in to detail, don't want to derail thread) A lot of people use powerlifting as an example, multiple bodies with differing rules and standards. | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 21-04-2013 @ 12:08 |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | I said:If you get one, you get others. Then before you know it, this happens: http://www.criticalbench.com/images/jeff-lewis2.jpg And even worse... this happens... http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/Maxs-training-log-11515 | ||
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