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| Tom_Martin |  | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 00:14 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Rick said: Wanna come train with us some time? It's easier to show than tell for sure. I definitely want to come do a session at addlington some time soon! I was speaking to Mark about this very thing yesterday, says he'd be up for a trip down there! I'll arrange a visit soon! | ||
| JC | | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 09:43 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Fatpete said: You can't dip on a bench, but the principle is similar, instead of pressing it out to arm;s length, you "throw" it off the chest and then catch it at the top. It's hard as hell but really rather beautiful when done right. Chest to lockout in one, strong, sweet, fast, snappy, explosive movement Your still pressing it though....just with a lot of explosive power | ||
| Rick | | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 20:16 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | The distinction is between a press in the traditional sense - not really any explosive lift (not at all an oly press, say, much less a push) - and what we're looking for here, which is to be as close to a ballistic movement as possible. The movement from the bottom doesn't really involve what one would normally think of as the "pressing muscles" in such a big way. Think a jerk getting failed for a pressout. That - slowing and the tension coming primarily onto the triceps - is what we mean by "pressing" here, and it's what we're trying to avoid. (Obviously not completely, one can't). | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 20:22 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Rick said:The distinction is between a press in the traditional sense - not really any explosive lift (not at all an oly press, say, much less a push) - and what we're looking for here, which is to be as close to a ballistic movement as possible. The movement from the bottom doesn't really involve what one would normally think of as the "pressing muscles" in such a big way. Think a jerk getting failed for a pressout. That - slowing and the tension coming primarily onto the triceps - is what we mean by "pressing" here, and it's what we're trying to avoid. (Obviously not completely, one can't). You're definitely going to have to show me this in person I think, make sure we're on the same page. I'll hopefully be down one Friday in the next 3 weeks. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 22:57 |
 Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Friday, 12th November, start 15:55 Deadlift, raw, all weights in kilos 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 100 x 5 140 x 3 180 x 3 220 x 3 230 x 3 240 x 3 250 x 1 250 x 1 250 x 1 220 x 3 220 x 1* All really rather good though I say so myself, the back/glute gave almost no trouble, just a slight nudge of the singles, but nothing to worry about, and the seg which did ache on all up to the first 220 and then suddenly stopped and behaved itself rigt up until I have finished whereby it started to ache slightly, but nothing more. The last single was an experiment in a slight change in hand spacing. I moved both hands in one inch or so, The inner part of both hands is now only just on the knurl. it felt no different but Alan saw something he evidently liked so we might try the whole session with this grip next week. Bench, raw, still kilos 50 x 5 80 x 5 110 x 3 130 x 3 140 x 3 130 x 3 These were beacuse, in Alan's words "I did none on Wednesday". "Bit I did" I protested. "No you didn't" said he "now get on with it" So I did. And that was that. I have more physio booked for tomorrow which can only be a good thing, I was mugged for a fiver for a prostate cancer charity by a man with a moustache, I spotted for some fine squatting, and DRRick arrived very late with tales of ford focus' and buses fighting in the road and of the traffic chaos they caused. They caused it for me too, I missed eggheads - boo, but I made it before the chippy closed - hooray. Cheltenham is on channel four tomorrow and on Sunday, so that's me sorted. This weekend, if all goes to plan, I shall be taking it easy, very easy | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 12-11-2010 @ 22:58 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Tom_Martin said: You're definitely going to have to show me this in person I think, make sure we're on the same page. I'll hopefully be down one Friday in the next 3 weeks. Now we are talking, it will be my pleasure | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 14-11-2010 @ 16:43 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Sunday, 14th November, start 13:00 Just me and Joe this time. bench, raw, all kilograms 20 x 20 20 x 20 20 x 20 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 80 x 5 100 x 5 all to three boards, all paused 120 x 1 130 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 2 and to chest now 130 x 1 Fin. Sloped off to the White Bear for the now traditional steak and kidney pie and diet coke and to shoot the breeze with Joe the terrible. Then home to watch the racing from Cheltenham, where today, I did find a beast that could run and jump and managed to do so, I got my money back on the day and a little more besides, it won't get me a trip to Oldham but it will cover a tandoori chicken from a rather splendid takeaway just up the road. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 15-11-2010 @ 20:23 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Monday, 15th November, start 17:10 Slight detour as the blackrod bypass is closed in the direction I want to go so I have to snake my way through the village. Squat, new suit, straps up, naked knees, all weights in kilos "down a bit this week" says the boss 60 x 5 60 x 6 60 x 6 100 x 5 100 x 5 140 x 5 180 x 3 wraps on 220 x 1 240 x 1 260 x 1 272 x 1 260 x 1 All really rather nice, but the 272 wasn't quite as nice as the others so I had to do 260 again. That'll each me, all in all a good and enjoyable night. I drive out behind handsome Jeff, who thought he spotted a fault with my lights and kindly stopped to tell me. I explained that they were fine and dandy an that is what should have happened. I thanked him and off he went. I pulled up at the junction and there was Aaron heading back to the club as his train had been cancelled. A cold and dark club is no place for the lad so i offered him a lift home. A longer detour than the way in, but he could have been there all night if I hadn't. I couldn't do that to him. he was lucky though, if Jeff hadn't stopped me he would have missed us both by thirty seconds or so. That delay was just what he needed to snaffle a lift if a car with fully-functioning lights. I reckon he should buy Jeff a drink, personally I reckon a light stabbing is in order. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 17-11-2010 @ 21:59 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Wednesday 17th November, start 1700 Bench, raw at frist, all weights in kilos 20 x 20 20 x 20 20 x 20 70 x 5 70 x 5 70 x 5 110 x 3 120 x 2 130 x 1 DrRick dons the murderer's gloved and has the big shirt on in no time, all paused now 150 x 2 one to three blocks and one to two 160 x 1 to one block 170 x 1 to chest 175 x 1 to chest also All nice and smooth and sweet, but one thing shines out like a lighthouse on a dark and fogggy night, I need a tighter shirt, bit close to the comp for this one, but for the British, most definitely. A sandwich and a protein drink then off to the home of the tubular bandage to hurl a handsome and rather slutty women against quite a number of walls quite a few times each. I do enjoy wednesdays, especially when my neck isn't sore. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 19-11-2010 @ 20:28 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Friday, 19th November, start 15:45 At the end of last week's session we tried a slightly narrower grip, we will continue with it. The outer edges of each hand are on the rings, so essentailly it's the same width as a max legal bench, which is narrow for a deadlift, the feet are moved in a tad to accomodate this. Deadlift, raw, all weights in kilos 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 100 x 5 140 x 5 180 x 3 200 x 3 220 x 3 230 x 3 220 x 3 T bar row, very strict 40 x 10 50 x 10 60 x 10 70 x 10 60 x 10 This wasn't a great deal of fun tonight, I believe the narrower grip has some mileage in it, but right now it is causing my left buttock (which was fine last week, absolutely fine during Monday's squats and fine each day since) to play up considerably. It can't be much as after the first rep it improves dramatically for the next two, the narrower stance is worrying me tonight though, I'm not going higher than 230 in this mood. I dropped it to 220 and resorted to normal grip for the last, it was better, but the damage was already done. I am much annoyed by this, as it was quite unexpected. To compound matters another piece fell off the seg, so that's giving me grief again. The icing on the cake was there was a crash on the M61 and it and surrounding roads were chokka, I went home by an old Indian route that involved cattle grids of all things. Home late, sore hand, dodgy arse, and a general grumpyness that I seem to be getting used to. Bah ! | ||
| Rick | | ... | 19-11-2010 @ 23:00 |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Fatpete said:I went home by an old Indian route that involved cattle grids of all things You must give me details next week. I generally like roads with cattle grids on them  . | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 21-11-2010 @ 11:43 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Just popped to the local supermarket for some antiseptic lotions and portions for the hand. Although not sore, it looking manky and fungaly and altogether not good. So some excessive care and cleanliness is on the cards, if no improvement in a week or so then it may be off to seek professional advice. The trouble about this things is that they sneak up on you and you don't notice how bad it is (I tend to judge everything by how much it hurts), But I was out and about with some chaps from the club last night and they spotted it from across the room, they examined it and bollocled me within an inch of my life. Hence the fat fool has been stirred into some kind of action. My heartfelt thanks to the gentlemen concerned for the advice and the fillip needed. As I queued at the checkout, I was behind a man who had bought half the store, it would barely fitted on the conveyor belt, as he loaded the last few items he smiled and asked "would you like to pop in front of me as you only have a few items" I didn't need asking twice, what a nice chap. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 21-11-2010 @ 11:44 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Rick said: You must give me details next week. I generally like roads with cattle grids on them .Happily, but I don't think you'll like this one | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 21-11-2010 @ 15:53 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Sunday, 21st November, start 1300 Bench, raw, all kilos 20 x 20 20 x 20 20 x 20 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 80 x 5 100 x 5 to three boards, all paused 120 x 1 130 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 1 140 x 2 Off to the White Bear for some scampi and some parsiflage with Joe the Terrible as always. There are two benches at Adders, the foot of one being at the head of the other, so in order to sit up I hook my feet under the bench in front and use that as leverage, that has done the glute no good whatsoever, I am now limpimg, only slightly, but I am. Plus my neck aches. I am well fed up with this now, if I am to fall apart, I wish I could get it over and done with. On the plus side I did attend to my hand immediately after training | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 22-11-2010 @ 20:12 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17890 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Monday, 22nd November, start 17:05 I've been a little nervous today, it was 280 two weeks ago, 270 ish last week so it's 290 today, normally that would be no great trouble, but one, it's been a while and two, the glute played up friday, was fine saturday, and played up again yesterday, all this toing and froing is not good. Squat, new suit, straps up, naked knees, all weights in kilos 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 60 x 5 100 x 5 140 x 5 180 x 3 wraps on 220 x 1 250 x 1 270 x 1 290 x 1 Young Aaron and Handsome Jeff watched depth and both narrowly failed it. It was not quite deep enough and therefore it was harder than it ought to have been getting up with it (when will I ever learn) but everything else was fine about it. Despite the above it wasn't overly heavy, as the old saying goes, it you can do it this wrong, you can sure as hell do it right. Confidence has increased as a result of this tonight, next time it will be easier. Another plus is that the manky hand is only half the size it was (the manky bit, not the hand) and it looks much cleaner and, well, less manky. Surgery is more or less ruled out now. Initially this looked to be quite a poor showm but closer inspection revealed that it really wasn't that bad at all. End 18:15 | ||
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