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Rico		overhead assistance	27-09-2010 @ 19:58
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260 595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq	What does everyone use as overhead assistance and how often do you do it? I've been doing close grip bench on and off but am going to try and do it everytime i train. Did 8x3 today, what rep ranges do you use as well? Cheers

fatter_tomorrow		...	27-09-2010 @ 20:05
thinner after lockdown Member 594, 4166 posts SQ 100, BP 80, DL 100 280.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq	Post Edited: 27.09.2010 @ 20:08 PM by fatter_tomorrow close grips, board presses, floor press, seated/standing strict press, push press, power jerk, split jerk, front squats for leg drive, jerk drives, use bands/chains for extra tricep work, pin presses, savickas presses (seated press but with no back support to lean on), tricep rollouts, skull crushers. the list goes on. also wearing oly shoes helped my overhead alot, put me in a much better position and i could get more leg drive. also racking the bar on the shoulders and pushing elbows forward.

mikehowarth		...	27-09-2010 @ 20:08
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	IMO doing a variety of different exercises overhead... push press, press, jerks, log, axle together with basic tricep stregthening such as CGBP and dips help as appose to any specific movement

mikehowarth		...	27-09-2010 @ 20:09
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	I said:IMO doing a variety of different exercises overhead... push press, press, jerks, log, axle together with basic tricep stregthening such as CGBP and dips help as appose to any specific movement Oh and even dumbell can be good for overhead onfidence and stability

Rico		...	27-09-2010 @ 20:31
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260 595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq	fatter_tomorrow said:close grips, board presses, floor press, seated/standing strict press, push press, power jerk, split jerk, front squats for leg drive, jerk drives, use bands/chains for extra tricep work, pin presses, savickas presses (seated press but with no back support to lean on), tricep rollouts, skull crushers. the list goes on. also wearing oly shoes helped my overhead alot, put me in a much better position and i could get more leg drive. also racking the bar on the shoulders and pushing elbows forward. This might sound like a gay comment but what is a power jerk and what is a jerk drive? And yeah i've been looking at shoes, what ones do you have?

fatter_tomorrow		...	27-09-2010 @ 20:41
thinner after lockdown Member 594, 4166 posts SQ 100, BP 80, DL 100 280.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq	Post Edited: 27.09.2010 @ 20:42 PM by fatter_tomorrow Rico said: This might sound like a gay comment but what is a power jerk and what is a jerk drive? And yeah i've been looking at shoes, what ones do you have? power jerk: jerk drive: i cant find a decent video, but its sort of like a heavy 1/4 front squat. i have some do wins, but those are the only oly shoes ive own so i cant really comment on whats best. i like the do wins though.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	27-09-2010 @ 21:17
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22059 posts	At the moment I'm doing no overhead assistance. I did weighted dips for a while, but felt they could take their toll on my elbows if I did them week in week out.


Wayne_Cowdrey		...	27-09-2010 @ 21:17
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22059 posts	Post Edited: 27.09.2010 @ 21:18 PM by Wayne_Cowdrey Double post

nathan		...	27-09-2010 @ 21:23
no longer sugdens strongest man Member 455, 1336 posts	basic is best i was told so strict press push press dumbell seated press close grip bench any overhead tricep stuff once one starts getting stale u swap

Thing		...	27-09-2010 @ 21:25
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	nathan said:basic is best i was told so strict press push press dumbell seated press close grip bench any overhead tricep stuff once one starts getting stale u swap have to agree with this

Rico		...	27-09-2010 @ 23:09
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260 595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq	Ok cheers will get some of this stuff incorporated into my training.

shaunclegg		...	27-09-2010 @ 23:21
The official olympic weightlifter of SB (juniors) Member 495, 3531 posts SQ 201, BP 137.5, DL 200 538.5 kgs @ 69kgs UnEq	Learn to Jerk.

FAT_SAM		...	27-09-2010 @ 23:57
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 335 1015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq	Bench (all widths). When my bench is big, so is my push/strict press. Dips. I only recently started doing dips but they hit my tris really well. If your shoulders can handle them, do them. And add weight. Close grip bench. I prefer doing this for high reps as i developed elbow problems going heavy on really close grip benches. Pushdowns. The tris seem to be able to handle a lot of volume, so i always finish them off with 5-6 sets of pushdowns, stopping just short of failure. Push press tech work. Use about 70-80% of your max push press (a weight just under your max strict press) and do several sets of 3 reps on push press with it. Focus on speed, and timing the leg drive correctly. Seated dumbell shoulder press. You need big delts to get big weight overhead. I prefer to do this exercise pausing the dumbells on the shoulders on every rep, but play around and find out what works for you.

Rico		...	28-09-2010 @ 18:56
Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260 595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq	Ok will do, also what kind of rep ranges are you doing for assistance work? I've been doing low reps and concentrating on speed.

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