105 qualification proposal?
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| Sparrow |  | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 09:59 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | luke00 said:I know this is a little off track. But why do all qualifiers for opens, u105s etc events differ so much. Surely that is something that should be looked at as well. Same events, same weights for each qualifier ? If anybody ever needs help with anything I am more than willing as well. As I would like to put on comps in the future. Most of the events/weights/distances for these quals have been standardized as much as possible. | ||
| JC | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 10:13 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 14.04.2010 @ 10:14 AM by JC MarkClegg said:Col-A is right lads, you may as well scrap the Quals if this is going to go on and So much disregard has been shown towards the Midlands lads in terms of numbers But they could come up with some absolute class competitors and i feel like these guys are really getting an unfair deal through no fault of their own ... Yes i'm gutted about JC not qualifying , i even sponsor the guy BUT people must be carefull not to make things unfair .. Please let know one be under any false pretences, I would NOT do Englands under any circumstances (unless Millsy, Cleggy and Robbo died in a tragic accident and in respect for my fallen brothers I did it  )I have had my chance to qualify, and its gone, simple as 16 qualifiers & Woods IMO, it should not be any other way! | ||
| Ben_F | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 10:18 |
 vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | JC said: Please let know one be under any false pretences, I would NOT do Englands under any circumstances (unless Millsy, Cleggy and Robbo died in a tragic accident and in respect for my fallen brothers I did it )I have had my chance to qualify, and its gone, simple as 16 qualifiers & Woods IMO, it should not be any other way! Fair play JC, I can see where you are coming from with that, I am the same - if I don't qualify Sunday then thats it... I will go to to the finals to help Craig and/or support the lads that made it there. | ||
| craigmanc | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 10:58 |
 not much fun Member 374, 3172 posts | Post Edited: 14.04.2010 @ 11:20 AM by craigmanc Look at the comments through the threads Will!!The structure I growing and gaing pace all the time!! People dont see what is happening behind the scenes like getting invites to Ireland and Internationals I thought with standardizing events in qualifiers we was getting somewhere | ||
| Tony | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:01 |
 Is partial to the odd bender. Member 6, 10239 posts SQ 280, BP 192.5, DL 317.5790.0 kgs @ 102kgs Eq | Agree with jc. Everyone has had their chance. Some solid athletes will qualify from the midland and the Englands will have a very impressive line up. | ||
| Col_Austin | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:01 |
99.8 340/220/335 895 Member 1002, 1560 posts | luke00 said: I know this is a little off track. But why do all qualifiers for opens, u105s etc events differ so much. Surely that is something that should be looked at as well. Same events, same weights for each qualifier ? I agree that weights should be approximately the same from one qualifier to another, but what concerns me about strongman (from an outsider's perspective) is that it is becoming too standardized. So long as there's an overhead, a lift, a load, a drag etc, isn't the whole point of being a strong man that you turn-up and turn your hand to whatever the events are? You're only competing against whoever else turns up on the day. If the events end-up being the same, on the same equipment then athletes no longer have to have that element of adaptability, which, for me, has always separated strongman, as a strength sport, from weightlifting or powerlifting. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:02 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | craigmanc said:Look at the comments through the threads Will!! The structure I growing and gaing pace all the time!! People dont see what is happening behind the scenes like getting invites to Ireland and Internationals mate, this is how it will be. People will talk, people will make suggestions, people will criticise and dissect everything - especially if there is no transparency or direct ways to make propositions or change things and people are left guessing whats going on. Better get used to it mate but seriously, its GOOD that people talk and comment - it shows they care, and there are some gems in there always. | ||
| Madcowdrey | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:06 |
 SUGDEN SUCKS! Which is why i am here... Member 370, 1520 posts SQ 285, BP 185, DL 302.5772.5 kgs @ 94kgs Eq | loz brown will probably take the top 6 from all qualifiers to the britains!! i would put money on it | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:14 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | craigmanc said:Look at the comments through the threads Will!! The structure I growing and gaing pace all the time!! People dont see what is happening behind the scenes like getting invites to Ireland and Internationals people discuss, have ideas, disagree/agree because they care about the sport and want to help move it on. thats better than no-one giving a toss surely? having these discussions is helping things move forward imo. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:15 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | Col_Austin said: I agree that weights should be approximately the same from one qualifier to another, but what concerns me about strongman (from an outsider's perspective) is that it is becoming too standardized. So long as there's an overhead, a lift, a load, a drag etc, isn't the whole point of being a strong man that you turn-up and turn your hand to whatever the events are? You're only competing against whoever else turns up on the day. If the events end-up being the same, on the same equipment then athletes no longer have to have that element of adaptability, which, for me, has always separated strongman, as a strength sport, from weightlifting or powerlifting. well f**k a duck im agreeing with austin! | ||
| Tony | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:18 |
Is partial to the odd bender. Member 6, 10239 posts SQ 280, BP 192.5, DL 317.5790.0 kgs @ 102kgs Eq | Post Edited: 14.04.2010 @ 11:21 AM by Tony Madcowdrey said:loz brown will probably take the top 6 from all qualifiers to the britains!! i would put money on it So the entire Midlands contingent would get an invite! Doesn't work for me. Brits and uks are seperate comps and shouldn't be fed from the same qualifiers. Limits peoples oppertunitys to compete. | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:18 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | I would imagine the standard stuff being done at qualifiers, and at the national comp they put their hand to it, so some people aren't shortchanged because of where they live with regards to their strong/weak events. Finals are always varied and madness, so there you go. | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:20 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | Tony said: So the entire Midlands contingent would get an invite! What's wrong with that?? | ||
| Joni | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:20 |
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | so is it certain there wont be BSM regional qualifiers? So same guys qualify to both UKs and BSM from the same qualifiers? | ||
| JC | | ... | 14-04-2010 @ 11:22 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Joni said:So same guys qualify to both UKs and BSM from the same qualifiers? I dont want to bore people with this because I keep saying it BUT...... If you have 2 national comps, for me they should be diffrent. as the Opens were. One for lighter more speed realted stuff, the other very heavy and static Dont see the point in having EXACTLY the same comps, diferent names, which in essence they would be | ||