Mo Farah's coach
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| bcrusher |  | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 17:08 |
 Member 4865, 240 posts | Victor Conte (guy behind BALCO scandal) tweeted ‘Message 4 WADA: Retest past frozen urine samples from Mo Farah & Galen Rupp 4 synthetic testosterone w/ CIR method. Do it w/ transparency’. I'm not a chemist (perhaps more knowledgable sugdenites might know more) but shouldn't the samples if re-tested indicate synthetic testosterone? Reading further on this CIR method - The carbon isotope ratio (CIR) test examines the atomic make-up of testosterone in urine to determine if it is natural or synthetic. Costing around £250, it is generally only used when the more standard testosterone to epitestosterone (TE) test indicates that an athlete's levels of the naturally occurring hormones testosterone and epitestosterone are greater than a ratio of four to one. If an athlete was using testosterone to cheat, levels of testosterone would increase but the amount of epitestosterone in their body would not. CIR testing can be used retrospectively, so investigators could go back and examine samples collected in previous years. | ||
| Sparrow |  | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 17:42 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | I hope big Mo is clean. I would be genuinely surprised if he wasn't. Get him re-tested! | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 18:44 |
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| Sparrow | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 22:26 |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | kirkynick said: Why would you be genuinely surprised? Because he is a likeable guy? Not saying for one second that he is or has done anything, i'm just questioning why people would be surprised. I'd never hear him speak until I watched an interview earlier today. Yeah - because he is an uber-geek! | ||
| Ben_F | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 23:11 |
 vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Boar said:well , its not like you are a doctor or anything !! Do you think Alan Wells used 1970's anabolic steroids ? in the 70's. I reckon Alan Wells was at least as clean as Kelly Holmes. | ||
| force10 | | ... | 13-06-2015 @ 15:53 |
 Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | I love reading threads like this so many badass athletes taking drugs . The thing that makes me chuckle is the amount of the hollier than thou brigade that do but profess they don't | ||
| 1369phil | | ... | 13-06-2015 @ 19:41 |
 doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | force10 said:I love reading threads like this so many badass athletes taking drugs . The thing that makes me chuckle is the amount of the hollier than thou brigade that do but profess they don't This is from someone who tried and failed to lift in a drug tested organised sport? | ||
| force10 | | ... | 13-06-2015 @ 20:04 |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | 1369phil said: This is from someone who tried and failed to lift in a drug tested organised sport? Do your homework I lifted for many years very successfully and passed 7 drug test's think that might tell you something. | ||
| 1369phil | | ... | 13-06-2015 @ 20:20 |
doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | force10 said: Do your homework I lifted for many years very successfully and passed 7 drug test's think that might tell you something. You're a talented and experienced lifter, a strong one too. Your standpoint appears to be that most top level athletes use, I agree with you. I think it's a bit rich to criticise those competing and using - because that was you a while back. | ||
| Benvie | | ... | 13-06-2015 @ 20:21 |
 embarrasingly poor bench Member 2684, 4043 posts SQ 240, BP 135, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | force10 said: Do your homework I lifted for many years very successfully and passed 7 drug test's think that might tell you something. Surely one failed test somewhat overshadows the 7 passed ones. | ||
| force10 | | ... | 14-06-2015 @ 00:43 |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | 1369phil said: You're a talented and experienced lifter, a strong one too. Your standpoint appears to be that most top level athletes use, I agree with you. I think it's a bit rich to criticise those competing and using - because that was you a while back. not criticising anyone who uses just measly pointing out most that slate those that do are more than probably using themselves but pretend they don't. After all it really is part of the sport if you wish to compete at a decent level. | ||
| force10 | | ... | 14-06-2015 @ 00:49 |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Benvie said: Surely one failed test somewhat overshadows the 7 passed ones. Avoiding a positive test is part of the game. Rules say clean when tested that also can and is interpreted as take anything you want to but don't get caught | ||
| force10 | | ... | 14-06-2015 @ 00:49 |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Benvie said: Surely one failed test somewhat overshadows the 7 passed ones. Avoiding a positive test is part of the game. Rules say clean when tested that also can and is interpreted as take anything you want to but don't get caught | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 14-06-2015 @ 00:51 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Yes we get it you got away with it for ages before getting caught but that doesnt mean every f**ker is on gear! | ||
| rian1987 | | ... | 14-06-2015 @ 06:26 |
not stating facts. Member 3100, 502 posts | unit94 said:Yes we get it you got away with it for ages before getting caught but that doesnt mean every f**ker is on gear! Moat sportsmen at the top level are though and anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. | ||