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Wes | ... | 30-05-2015 @ 18:39 | |
31.6 and Obese !! Get in.... Member 869, 1355 posts SQ 320, BP 200, DL 310830.0 kgs @ 97.5kgs Eq | Competing has always been a great crack for me, love everything about it. Never put too much pressure on myself and have never got caught up on winning and s**t. I think I'm just learning a few things about myself. Normally I'd like to think I'd just go and smash the comp regardless of how far off the pace I think I am and learn something from it anyway. That's what I did a few weeks ago, but it appears doing it back to back in a short space of time is getting right on my tits... ! | ||
rawlifter | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 10:39 | |
Member 5584, 304 posts SQ 225, BP 157.5, DL 260642.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Wes said:It's all about kg's lifted for me, it feels great to win, of course it does, but I'd swap 1st for 3rd with another 5kg on each lift. Exacly this | ||
aaron_lohan | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 13:19 | |
Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq | PhillippeHalter said:For some people competing provides unnecessary pressure and can cause more issues than it helps If somebody is psychologically weak or mentally unstable it's really important not to make a big deal of the fact that they compete or not Competing should be fun and not be excessively stressful The stress is the fun. Theres nothing like hitting big numbers in a big competition or the feeling of getting all your lifts in and hitting a large number. | ||
aaron_lohan | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 13:24 | |
Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq | JohnGym said:As someone with no chance of winning a major title I can't think of a single reason to compete. If I am not competitive I won't (and actually Can Not) compete. So I'm probably done unless through some miracle I can add 100kg to my total. You cant expect to pitch up to a comp and win, if that were the case then the comp wouldnt be worth competing in. Competing will boost your total more than anything else, because you will go up against better people and this will motivate you to do better | ||
PhillippeHalter | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 13:33 | |
Are horror films healthy...? Member 5449, 2203 posts | aaron_lohan said: The stress is the fun. Theres nothing like hitting big numbers in a big competition or the feeling of getting all your lifts in and hitting a large number. I said excessively stressful... Or "overstress" as its called. Having said that it's good to hear such enthusiasm from somebody in your situation | ||
macroth | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 13:42 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I'm very mediocre at this lifting thing, so when I compete it's mostly "against myself", but I still enjoy it because I want to see what I can do under pressure, outside the comfort of my gym, and against other people (although there is very little direct competition in strength sports, unfortunately). If I didn't compete in SM/PL, I don't think I could be bothered to stick to a programme, track my progress, and so on. I would just "work out", do a bunch of different sports... and probably do a few competitions/year in each of them. | ||
Wes | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 14:15 | |
31.6 and Obese !! Get in.... Member 869, 1355 posts SQ 320, BP 200, DL 310830.0 kgs @ 97.5kgs Eq | aaron_lohan said: You cant expect to pitch up to a comp and win, if that were the case then the comp wouldnt be worth competing in. Competing will boost your total more than anything else, because you will go up against better people and this will motivate you to do better Agreed... | ||
JohnGym | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 15:12 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | aaron_lohan said: You cant expect to pitch up to a comp and win, if that were the case then the comp wouldnt be worth competing in. Competing will boost your total more than anything else, because you will go up against better people and this will motivate you to do better Disagree | ||
JohnGym | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 15:15 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 01.06.2015 @ 15:22 PM by JohnGym Nobody said anything about turning up and 'winning'. The point missed by so many and so often is 'being competitive'. Being competitive means you might win or might place. Being unable to win or place means you aren't competing so actually CAN NOT compete. Compete means to be competitive. If you can't be competitive you can't compete and are instead just making up the numbers. | ||
macroth | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 15:31 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 01.06.2015 @ 15:48 PM by macroth JohnGym said:Nobody said anything about turning up and 'winning'. The point missed by so many and so often is 'being competitive'. Being competitive means you might win or might place. Being unable to win or place means you aren't competing so actually CAN NOT compete. Compete means to be competitive. If you can't be competitive you can't compete and are instead just making up the numbers. What if someone "could have" placed, but didn't? Did they compete? | ||
macroth | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 15:35 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | It just seems like a strange way of looking at competition. The way I read you, might as well give out prizes based on what people say than can do, no need to actually have them lift on the day. OR, you could take the view that people can underperform, get injured or bomb out and you could end up placing or winning even if other athletes that should theoretically beat you are also participating. Isn't that the whole point? To see what happens on the day of the competition? | ||
b15ape1 | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 15:37 | |
British bum sex champ Member 450, 1605 posts SQ 315, BP 212.5, DL 290817.5 kgs @ 137kgs Eq | JohnGym said:Nobody said anything about turning up and 'winning'. The point missed by so many and so often is 'being competitive'. Being competitive means you might win or might place. Being unable to win or place means you aren't competing so actually CAN NOT compete. Compete means to be competitive. If you can't be competitive you can't compete and are instead just making up the numbers. Eye of the beholder sometimes though John. Some people will accept that they wont win or place but will compete with people around them at their level. You sound like you cant accept placing lower than the top 3...Nothing wrong with that were all different and naturally want to do well. Patience is a big thing in lifting,alot of people including myself have fallen to impatience! | ||
JohnGym | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 15:42 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Sorry. I'll try not to have an opinion in future. | ||
b15ape1 | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 16:02 | |
British bum sex champ Member 450, 1605 posts SQ 315, BP 212.5, DL 290817.5 kgs @ 137kgs Eq | JohnGym said:Sorry. I'll try not to have an opinion in future. Dont be like that John i have opinions too!! But there again i am a c**t!! | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 01-06-2015 @ 16:04 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | JohnGym said:Nobody said anything about turning up and 'winning'. The point missed by so many and so often is 'being competitive'. Being competitive means you might win or might place. Being unable to win or place means you aren't competing so actually CAN NOT compete. Compete means to be competitive. If you can't be competitive you can't compete and are instead just making up the numbers. maybe the reason this point is being missed by so many people is because it is actually you who has missed the point? com·pete intr.v. com·pet·ed, com·pet·ing, com·petes To strive against another or others to attain a goal, such as an advantage or victory 1. (often foll by: with) to contend (against) for profit, an award, athletic supremacy, etc; engage in a contest (with) to strive to outdo another for acknowledgment, a prize, etc.; engage in a contest; vie: to compete in business. there is nothing to say in any of those definitions that you have to be competitive to be competing. and I think its a stretch to define 'competitive' as 'being able to win or place'. I respect anyones decision to compete or not but saying you dont want to because you dont feel able to make the top 3 or win seems a bit short sighted to me. I cant comment on pl but there is a huge amount to be gained outside of winning or placing when competing in strongman. I am very rarely in with a chance of winning in the competitions that I enter but that is such a small part of what I get out of doing them that it doesnt matter. a trophy is just the icing on a cake. | ||