Blue Light Novice Strongman Competition 2014
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| unit94 |  | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 11:49 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | mr4130 said:I think BW log is a brilliant idea. I havent done many comps, but the ones I have done have turned slightly comical when the 140+kg guys turn up to do a 90kg log. Yes, they may be novices from an experience perspective, but they should be a lot stronger than a 90kg guy. If a 140kg guy cant overhead bodyweight, but can do 100kg, why should the 90kg guy be expected to lift 10kg MORE than bodyweight overhead just to save the ego of the bigger guys? If I got 3 reps on a 100kg log at 90kg, and the 140kg guy got 4 reps on a 100kg, surely I would be by definition stronger than him? But he would get more points on that event. BW log is great, keep it in. If a 90kg guy gets 3 reps on a 100kg log and a 140kg guy gets 4 reps then by definition the 140kg guy is stronger. | ||
| mr4130 | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 12:25 |
Member 3366, 247 posts SQ 200, BP 150, DL 230580.0 kgs @ 92kgs UnEq | unit94 said: If a 90kg guy gets 3 reps on a 100kg log and a 140kg guy gets 4 reps then by definition the 140kg guy is stronger. On a pound for pound measurement, the 90kg guy is stronger. | ||
| Mark | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 13:15 |
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts | mr4130 said: On a pound for pound measurement, the 90kg guy is stronger. Since when did that matter in strongman? this isn't powerlifting with its wilks formulas :P Also this idea that a heavier person should be stronger is ludicrous, especially at novice level. | ||
| mr4130 | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 14:10 |
Member 3366, 247 posts SQ 200, BP 150, DL 230580.0 kgs @ 92kgs UnEq | Mark said: Since when did that matter in strongman? this isn't powerlifting with its wilks formulas :P Also this idea that a heavier person should be stronger is ludicrous, especially at novice level. I agree its not used in Strongman, I was simply saying that pound for pound they are stronger. | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 14:40 |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | mr4130 said: On a pound for pound measurement, the 90kg guy is stronger. But the definition of strength has nothing to do with bodyweight! | ||
| ZMA_junkie | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:05 |
 Member 4987, 41 posts SQ 310, BP 210, DL 310830.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | Can you put me down for the comp Solbjorn Einarsson Shetland islands | ||
| jones105 | | ..... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:21 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | Mark said: Since when did that matter in strongman? this isn't powerlifting with its wilks formulas :P Also this idea that a heavier person should be stronger is ludicrous, especially at novice level. This^ And this is my point....140 + log for a novice evan if he weighs that is still very difficult...Its 140kg for esos at Lady yrs welsh and 150 at englands last yr if i got it right so Yea,Its unfair for a big guy unless of course he can lift that Type of weight as a novice... Look we could go all day here but as said before Its just my opinión...i think a heavy light option would be better.at the dnd of the day Its just novice comp.supposed to be a bit of fun.:-) | ||
| polkovnikostin | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:31 |
Member 4803, 410 posts | More moaning and b**ching from the strongmen again. Are any of you who are whining actually entering this comp?? | ||
| jones105 | | ..... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:37 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | polkovnikostin said:More moaning and b**ching from the strongmen again. Are any of you who are whining actually entering this comp?? Doesnt Look like moaning to me...just pple having an opinión;-) | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:41 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | polkovnikostin said:More moaning and b**ching from the strongmen again. Are any of you who are whining actually entering this comp?? thats what we are all here for isnt it? discussing stuff? someone says something, someone disagrees, the people make their own mind up. what offends you so about this process? | ||
| polkovnikostin | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:47 |
Member 4803, 410 posts | WILLSAN said: thats what we are all here for isnt it? discussing stuff? someone says something, someone disagrees, the people make their own mind up. what offends you so about this process? Nothing, 'offends me so'. But it's not a process. You guys don't pay membership subscriptions to any federations and, from what I can gather, object to the principle of doing so. Most guys who put on comps seem to do so for the love of the sport, but when they post details on here the first couple of pages are nearly always complaints about the events from people not even entering. I understand that strongman is not as clear-cut as weightlfiting and powerlifting and there may be points for discussion, but it all comes across and moaning to me. | ||
| cowie | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 17:54 |
 Member 3740, 1586 posts | Post Edited: 27.01.2014 @ 17:55 PM by cowie jones105 said:Ok ill explain.. Its a novice comp..u get a guy weighing 140+ ....Not manu novices that could Stift that Type if Weight.. Novice comps usually get logs ranging 80-100kg.thats why i think it Would be unfair for a novice big guy trying to shift that Type of weight... Im fully away that smaller guys can have better oh than bigger guys that wasnt my point tho... Its just an opinion...hope it goes well for you :-) I dont use PED's but there is a chance that you or others might, does that make it fair? | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 18:02 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | I was referring to the process of discussing/arguing/b**ching/moaning. from my perspective I see it as a good thing. people having a voice that is. given that it is unregulated, the only way for things to change for the better is by people moaning when things arent done properly. when I started out the sport had alot of dodgy promoters, dodgy scoring and poorly run competitions. I dont see anywhere near as much of that now and I think a large part of that is down to things being complained about on forums like this. its not always that pleasant to read but it is effective. as a promoter, the last thing I want to see in my thread is 20 pages of people complaining so that motivates me to get things right! | ||
| larrywood | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 18:31 |
Member 2066, 97 posts | ZMA_junkie said:Can you put me down for the comp Solbjorn Einarsson Shetland islands Done | ||
| hilliker | | ... | 27-01-2014 @ 19:06 |
Member 1025, 1032 posts | cowie said: I dont use PED's but there is a chance that you or others might, does that make it fair? What the f**k is that all about haha. | ||