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Thing | Over head squats | 09-01-2010 @ 18:21 | |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | would Over Head squats be good for flexibility and tech development for squats and deadlift? | ||
moz | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 18:48 | |
Feasting on humble pie. Member 51, 1692 posts SQ 227.5, BP 185, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 90.4kgs UnEq | yes mate im usiing them to help my squat tech. Its really hard to round your lower back at the bottom in the overhead position. It took me a week or two to learn to keep the bar over my heels as I went down. The bar was coming forward due to lack of shoulder flexabilty. Give a blast mate, you could also try an exercise called snatch balance which is quite similar. | ||
moz | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 18:49 | |
Feasting on humble pie. Member 51, 1692 posts SQ 227.5, BP 185, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 90.4kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.01.2010 @ 18:51 PM by moz duplicate. Again! | ||
MattGriff | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 19:05 | |
Member 194, 3976 posts | I don't see the point of these for squat and deadlift as they are down alot to shoulder flexibility. Front squats and Power cleans/snatchs would be better | ||
EDCLARKE | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 19:05 | |
not particularly well educated Member 85, 10991 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | moz said:yes mate im usiing them to help my squat tech. Its really hard to round your lower back at the bottom in the overhead position. It took me a week or two to learn to keep the bar over my heels as I went down. The bar was coming forward due to lack of shoulder flexabilty. Give a blast mate, you could also try an exercise called snatch balance which is quite similar. bloody good idea that i shall try them as a warm up on monday ,tried them before and found them unbeleivably difficult even with just the bar! | ||
Thing | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 19:24 | |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | cheers Moz, i will add them in tomorrow at the next session Griff i was thinking that is i can get the over head squats to force me to get the rounding of the lower back stopped that it will help my tech on the deads and back squats | ||
brynevans | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 19:38 | |
Scotbasher - forever Member 59, 2115 posts | This young lady demonstrates the correct technique | ||
Thing | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 20:02 | |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.01.2010 @ 20:02 PM by Thing cheers Bryn. very nice tech there | ||
BigKen | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 20:10 | |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | MattGriff said:I don't see the point of these for squat and deadlift as they are down alot to shoulder flexibility. Front squats and Power cleans/snatchs would be better I agree with Matt mate. Definetly restricted to shoulder flexability and I also think that when you go to normal squat and deads the tech will be thrown off and not perfect like you're hoping it will be. | ||
moz | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 20:22 | |
Feasting on humble pie. Member 51, 1692 posts SQ 227.5, BP 185, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 90.4kgs UnEq | trust me when it came to shoulder flexability i was the worlds worse. Years of benching and no shoulder work. If your struggling use a broom handle instead of an oly bar. As you squat down push your hands back and try pulling the bar apart without actually moving your hands. It'll take a week or for flexability to come | ||
Steve | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 20:57 | |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Does the fact that top weightlifters don't, at least in my experience, usually do overhead squats says something about their value? | ||
Rick | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 20:59 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Certainly all the weightlifters I know see them as a stepping stone to snatch balances, nothing more. That said, for the remedial back-position-correcting purposes Thing and Moz posted about it does seem to make sense... | ||
Thing | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 21:19 | |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Cheers rick that's the only reason why I have asked about them and want to se them in my training. | ||
Steve | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 21:20 | |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Rick said:Certainly all the weightlifters I know see them as a stepping stone to snatch balances, nothing more. That said, for the remedial back-position-correcting purposes Thing and Moz posted about it does seem to make sense... And all the weightlifters I've know have also dropped snatch balances once they got to a more advanced level. As a general conditioning exercise overhead squats are a great exercise but there are better exercises for improving squat and deadlift technique. | ||
Thing | ... | 09-01-2010 @ 21:24 | |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Steve said: And all the weightlifters I've know have also dropped snatch balances once they got to a more advanced level. As a general conditioning exercise overhead squats are a great exercise but there are better exercises for improving squat and deadlift technique. please elaborate steve | ||