Giants Live Welsh Qualifier 2013

jones105 said:
quite agree with this.....we are growing strongman in wales,and getting better,hosting 5 comps next year all ready....our under 90 comp has similar weight/events as WSM 5-6years ago...our yoke 320kg is the same weight as englands u105!!!
i dont think rob should have to justify him self tbh...but every one is entitled to their opinion!

terryhollands said:
I see your point but the weights weren't that light 6-7 years ago. Also they were light for entertainment value not cause the guys couldn't do more. Just a little off subject

Rob_Bush said:
Certain events have to be tailored for the current standard and TV aspect needs to be a consideration when selecting events and although 15m isn't a long run, at the UK's last year 440kg for 15m was too much for some. 400kg on Giants Live Finland was only about 20m I think and these are the world's elite so at a domestic level in Wales 400kg for 15 seems a fair distance in my opinion.

JC said:
dont understand the TV aspect Rob?
If its too heavy for folk to do for 30m, lower the weight a bit (most opens should be able to do 160x30 on farmers unless they awkward as f**k)
The general public would rather see 400x30m (drop/turn at 30) than 440 for 15 (IMO)

Rob_Bush said:
The current standard is a mixed bag of abilities - some competitors with lots more experience and others new to the opens in Wales and who wouldn't have such an easy time taking 400 over 30m. A lot of high level comps still use 20m runs and Glenn ran a 440 for 15m at the UK's last year so it's all down to each comp's organisers to judge the standard and set events accordingly. I feel that seeing lots of competitors moving a 400 yoke well over 15m makes for a better event rather than not so well over 30m but that is just my opinion. The same applies for the farmers as seeing more finishes is in the best interest of competitors and spectators alike - but again, this is just my view. I think regardless of weights and distances the best competitor will go through to Britain's so that's good enough for me. The sport is developing in Wales and there are nowhere near as many seasoned competitors as there are in England, so the steps we take may not be as big or as bold but we are making progress.

drew said:
I don't get this. Why not do 350 for 30m. If 400/30 is too much.

drew said:
I don't get this. Why not do 350 for 30m. If 400/30 is too much.

Rob_Bush said:
Sorry... If the Welsh competitors are going to qualify for the UK's for example where a 440kg yoke needs to be taken 15m then why would 350kg for 30m be of any relevance or benefit to any of us? 30m runs aren't at every comp with the exception of comps set in Wales so I'm afraid I just don't understand your question.

martinb said:
Just setting a high weight doesn't make people good enough to do it
If your best guys are good enough to do 440 fine, but if most of the other guys aren't then it's just daft to set it high
The best guys will still win regardless

siovrhyl said:Why you guys picking at a distance 15-20-30m who gives a s**t itmakes little difference on tv the weights are reasonable and are inline with other qualifiers as for us welsh boys not being at the standard I believe I have stood my ground in recent national comps and have beat lads who have been invited to the English qualifiers kelvin and rob both showed at the uks that they are capable of mixing it with them too

luke00 said:Personally believe you're all missing the point, with this inter-house squabbling. We all need to stop the dominance of the Eastern block and America and get a WSM from the UK again. Truth be told, if they are Scottish, Welsh or Irish they'll be classed as British and if they lose they'll be classed as Scottish, Irish or Welsh

We have so many good athletes at the minute, a truly awesome time to be British and strong, that this will eventually happen. So what if some of the nations are behind others in terms of strength, they have a smaller field to pick from and we should all be pushing each other to our limits and exceeding our expectations regardless of which part of the UK you are from. Pool our resources our knowledge and push even further forward. Through unity in the UK we will do this, not bickering about a few metres on a f**king yoke and starting to slag each other off. We go to war with the iron every day not each other, save that for the international circuit where we need to take the rest of the World to school.

siovrhyl said:Why you guys picking at a distance 15-20-30m who gives a s**t it makes little difference on tv