500kg single ply squat

Tom_Martin said:
Do you honestly, Pete, HONESTLY believe he intended to do anything but place the bar back in the rack regardless of what his feet did or didn't do?

Tom_Martin said:
Which is interesting, considering the depth he himself squats to and deems to be acceptable.

Wayne_Cowdrey said:I like Fatpete's attitude towards powerlifting and the concept of there being a 'correct' way of doing things based upon gentlemanly etiquette

Wayne_Cowdrey said:
I don't think stating that you think a lifter failed on a technicality belittles the display of strength on display.

I don't personally class this squat as a failure though.

Fatpete said:
Nor do I.
I only said that it could be argued that it could be classed as one.
If someone did that in a comp I was reffing I would have begrudgingly passed it, and then told the lifter that I would fail it next time. This would be on the grounds that it could hurt someone if you misjudge it.
If that makes me a s**t referee then so be it

ChrisMcCarthy said:Out of interest - how much leeway as Referees and Jury do you get when deciding whether something is safe? I assume if a lifter was doing anything in a "dangerous" manner that would trump any other rule and the Jury could potentially even exclude the lifter?

Tom_Martin said:"Bona fide" - From the Latin bona fide (“in good faith”)
"In good faith - This is often thought to require sincere, honest intentions or belief, regardless of the outcome of an action.
"Attempt" - Make an effort to achieve or complete

Do you honestly, Pete, HONESTLY believe he intended to do anything but place the bar back in the rack regardless of what his feet did or didn't do?

The implication that he did not intend to put the bar in the rack would suggest that by tipping forwards, he hoped he would smash his face into the floor with 500kg on his back. I would like to think even the most unreasonable of characters would safely presume this NOT to be the case.

aaron_lohan said:
i have seen a lifter dump 350 kg and get a warning. i have never known a lifter get disqualified for something that was deemed unsafe.

ChrisMcCarthy said:
Yes, I can't think of an example this isn't strictly prohibited by the rules off the top of my head, either - but I presume the option to must exist / be appropriate at some point.

Fatpete said:
No, I don't think that he intended to do anything other than put the bar back in the racks.

Fatpete said:
Now you're getting weird Tom.
I have never self refereed. It can't be done. I never know if I have passed or failed a squat until someone tells me. Personally, I am never really happy with my own depth and I do try to go as low as I can, sometimes it's low enough and sometimes it isn't. My comp squats do have a high pass rate though. My lack of depth is down to two things - I am old and fat. Two things that you have no experience of. But feel free to take the piss anyway.

Fatpete said:
Personally, I am never really happy with my own depth and I do try to go as low as I can, sometimes it's low enough and sometimes it isn't. My lack of depth is down to two things - I am old and fat.