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» benching (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 20:43 
Post Edited: 21.08.2007 @ 20:45 PM
Originally posted by Thing...can do 1 chin up (i did here that these are good for benching and i sometine use fatman oullups with weight instead or chest supported rows or face pulls)

i can press 140 over my head with a push press and if i remember 110 strited pressing


Looks to me like your triceps are plenty strong. Its your Overhead and Back training which needs to be looked at.

Considering you're Benching 180kg, Pressing 110kg over your head is way behind. I know guys who press 100 over head and Bench 160, and thats about standard. Hell a guy I used to train with pressed 160 over his head (seated) and would bench 200kg. That 40-60kg differential is what you should be aiming for.

Also, your weight shouldn't be an issue in regards to chins. A powerlifter I used to train with weighed 120kg and would regularly do sets of 15 chins with 10kg around his waist and those were the strictest Chins a guy could do. So, get on that Chinning bar and slug it out.
» What do belts do? (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 20:39 
Originally posted by Neil...
So the consensus is I should probably start using one? At least from time to time?


I was speaking from a powerlifting perspective. Worn tight it helps you lift more. As for you Neil, I wouldn't bother. I only wear it because I compete, its legal in the federation I lift in and as such i'm going to use it to my advantage.

If you don't compete, there's really no need for it. Just carry on building a strong core through regular, incremental exercise.
» Muscle Beach! (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 19:45 
Heh, maybe i'm too competitive in these things. I don't know.

I'm really not that strong at the moment guys, compared to before i'm a pussycat. But it's coming.
» benching (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 19:32 
Post Edited: 21.08.2007 @ 19:33 PM
Not sure I can give advice to a guy who Benches 180 raw, but Benching like any lift you train is all about a few things:

1) Practice on the lift
2) Identify and Work your weak areas
3) Rest enough to recover

Do those 3 things properly and you're going to improve. Number 2 is probably the hardest though, so a few questions:

How much are you pressing over your head?

How much are you pressing with a close grip?

How many chins can you do?

Can we see a video of you Benching?

Your Bench is about right compared to your Squats and Deads though, so not sur how much improvement is viable right now. But it's always worth taking a look at these things.
» Masturbation (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 19:26 
Post Edited: 21.08.2007 @ 19:27 PM
Ok, when will this conversation become weird (if not already)?

Is it when Joni starts talking about 'serenading' his own hand with Marvin Gaye loves tunes or when Rob starts talking about manicures as foreplay?!!
» Nice Ass (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 19:07 
Well, can't say I know much about Olympic Lifting training. However this guy:

http://danjohn.org/

Recommends it, and he's probably one of 2-3 guys who I would say everyone should listen to in matters of weight lifting.
» What are currently your favourite exercises? (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 19:03 
I've been in love with the Squat/Bench/Deadlift for years Tongue
» Muscle Beach! (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 16:22 
Thanks Joni, i'm still a way behind what I was lifting before Korea but i'm happy i'm moving in the right direction.

As for the weight table! Errrrrr... Not sure I really agree with it mate!
» Carls Powerlifting Journal (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 16:20 
Best of luck. Between lifts relax, have fun.

When it's your time to lift, give it hell.
» Nice Ass (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 16:16 
I would too!

Originally posted by Pete...Just like it says on the video, I once read that the mark of a quality strength athlete is 15 OH squats with your bodyweight.


Seriously, problem with marks of strength like that is 'strength' is too subjective. When you powerlift and devote all your energy into it, you don't need that much flexibility past what is neccesary for your Bench/Dead/Squat (in fact, more flexibility is not always desirable).

So, doing 10 OH Squats isn't just a strength test, its based on other factors, and just plain practice on the lift.

The real test would be, given sufficient time and sufficient motivation to practice the movement (a couple months and some sort of incentive) how many wouldn't be able to do OH Squats..

My guess is that, most of us would.
» Knee wraps - would you allow them in RAW powerlifting? (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 15:47 
Post Edited: 21.08.2007 @ 16:05 PM
Definitely not.

Depending on the person, it can help greatly. Personally knee-wraps give me a flat increase of 20kg or so instantly.

Back when my max was 225kg, I tried wraps for a brief period and made 240 with ease. As for knee safety, I don't buy that either. Knee strength/safety comes from training.
» What do belts do? (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 15:45 
To really get any "support" benefit from the belt it must be worn tight. Most people don't wear the belt tight enough to get any real 'support' benefit out of it.

Wearing it for keeping your back warm is fine, nothing that can't be done by a few Hypers/Ab raises before your worksets though.
» Muscle Beach! (Go to post)21-08-2007 @ 15:42 
Tuesday 21st August

Bench Press (paused) - 110kg x 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 ... 85kg x 5 ... 90kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

Cable Rows - 170lbs x 6, 6, 6, 6, 6

CG.Inclines - 60kg x 6, 6, 6, 6

Rear Laterals - 5kg's x 10, 10, 10, 10

Nice
» Muscle Beach! (Go to post)17-08-2007 @ 14:54 
Friday 17th August

Deadlifts - 180kg x 2, 2, 2

Deadlift from toes - 190kg x 1

Abs - Stack x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10
» Muscle Beach! (Go to post)16-08-2007 @ 15:58 
Thursday 16th August

Seated Press - upto 87.5kg x 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 .... 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5

Chins - BW+15kg x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5

BP. Lockouts - 100kg x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5

That was a rough session. Almost puked after the Lockouts.

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