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'Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling. He deserves to be forgotten.'
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| Cuddles |  | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:09 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Have any of you read the USADA report? Or at least significant parts of it? I would argue that the level of journalism surrounding this issue is a joke. I'm not even sure many of the journalists have read it... | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:11 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | OwenL said: Yeah correct, I agree. But you could take drugs and train like a crippled 60 year old if you couldn't be arsed. You wouldn't win 7 TDF's then. Depends what context "train like a mother f**ker" is taken as I suppose. I like to think I (sometimes  ) train like a motherf**ker, PED free.Your right you still have to want to put in the effort. The drugs will assist you, but they wont make you go and put in all the hard work. Whats the big problem anyway, all his main competetiors were likey juiced to the gills as well. Hes just being victimised because hes the best. | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:12 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | He cheated. It caught up with him. Good. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:18 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | AdamT said: Your right you still have to want to put in the effort. The drugs will assist you, but they wont make you go and put in all the hard work. Whats the big problem anyway, all his main competetiors were likey juiced to the gills as well. Hes just being victimised because hes the best. Have you actually read this thread? His main rivals HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. This is not a which hunt like people are making it out to be. I dont give a f**k about his PED use, it was rife in the sport, but he should be treated the same as everyone else. Just because he was the best, that doesnt make him exempt from the rules. The assertion otherwise is ludicrous. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:21 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | Post Edited: 23.10.2012 @ 10:23 AM by AdamT Cuddles said: Have you actually read this thread? His main rivals HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. This is not a which hunt like people are making it out to be. I dont give a f**k about his PED use, it was rife in the sport, but he should be treated the same as everyone else. Just because he was the best, that doesnt make him exempt from the rules. The assertion otherwise is ludicrous. Yeah i get what your saying. Suppose it's a large step to make the sport cleaner. Guys will think twice about cheating because they will know it could come back to hunt them later. | ||
| bryce | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:28 |
 Juice loose aboot this hoose Member 1401, 3962 posts SQ 160, BP 107.5, DL 210477.5 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/lancearms... UCI looking like idiots in this... | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:28 |
 he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Cuddles said: Have you actually read this thread? His main rivals HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. This is not a which hunt like people are making it out to be. I dont give a f**k about his PED use, it was rife in the sport, but he should be treated the same as everyone else. Just because he was the best, that doesnt make him exempt from the rules. The assertion otherwise is ludicrous. I am in agreement with you. All caught riders should be treated the same in terms of loss of titles, return of prize money etc. My issue is the being forgotten part, i dont agree with that. Unless they are suggesting all caught athletes be forgotten? Which they are not, are they? I think forgetting the period and the riders invoilved would be a step backwards | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:29 |
 more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | siwaniak said:This is the biggest joke ever! That Guy its the legend in cycling Even if He taking some drugs,who does not in cycling or any different sport?! Its not all about drugs,if You taking You must training like mother...er to be the best How He can be forgotten?! Some bunch of c**ts decide about this?! Shame! x2!!! It seems around 70% of guys in gyms in the UK use, and most look like s**t / are weak as piss / not competitive in any sport. This treatment of a sporting legend is bulls**t! | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:32 |
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | FAT_SAM said: It seems around 70% of guys in gyms in the UK use Really?? Nothing close to that up here, be surprised if 10% in our gym | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:36 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | davycummings said: Really?? Nothing close to that up here, be surprised if 10% in our gym The places I've trained, yup. Just pointing out that it's not the chemicals he MAY have used that made him a legend. I know people that stick all sorts of s**t in and can't bench 100kg! | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:36 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | FAT_SAM said: x2!!! It seems around 70% of guys in gyms in the UK use, and most look like s**t / are weak as piss / not competitive in any sport. This treatment of a sporting legend is bulls**t! Plenty of young guys in my gym use and they havent a clue. They get a bit of extra size and strength when they are on. they hardley train when they are off. Waste of good money if you ask me lol | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:41 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Cuddles said: Have you actually read this thread? His main rivals HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. This is not a which hunt like people are making it out to be. I dont give a f**k about his PED use, it was rife in the sport, but he should be treated the same as everyone else. Just because he was the best, that doesnt make him exempt from the rules. The assertion otherwise is ludicrous. How were they caught though? I don't really know but I'd assume by failing drug tests? | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:44 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Sparrow said: How were they caught though? I don't really know but I'd assume by failing drug tests? Snitching c**ts probably! | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:45 |
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | FAT_SAM said: The places I've trained, yup. Just pointing out that it's not the chemicals he MAY have used that made him a legend. I know people that stick all sorts of s**t in and can't bench 100kg! Pretty crazy percentage. I agree, drugs dont make athletes, they give them a chance to push on beyond their natural capabilities. No quantity of EPO would make me a world class cyclist, nor do i believe any quantity of PEDs would make me world class at any sport. You need the talent and the disire also, and this is why I dont think they should be forgotten as is being suggested, they were still world class athletes He broke the rules of his sport, and should thus be treated exactly the same way as others who broke the same rules. It seems pretty straightforward to me | ||
| chaos | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:46 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Not long till lockdown now! | ||