Motabilism
| Thing |  | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 08:59 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Well from the extra weight I put on because of the previous meds I had (pregrabilin) I put on 8.5kgs but I have managed to shift that and since the new year i've only managed to shift around 1.5 kg's | ||
| streak | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 09:52 |
they call him the streak Member 2002, 400 posts SQ 182.5, BP 130, DL 240552.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Thing said:Well from the extra weight I put on because of the previous meds I had (pregrabilin) I put on 8.5kgs but I have managed to shift that and since the new year i've only managed to shift around 1.5 kg's I really don't know anything about meds that make you gain weight (other than it happens). I do know a bit about low-carb diets and have lost a fair bit of fat using that approach. How many grams of carbs per day are you shooting for? What works for you? | ||
| Sean_Clarke | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 10:07 |
 I don't have to justify myself to you. Member 2050, 556 posts SQ 221, BP 191, DL 300712.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Forget drugs, it's all in the diet. Cut all carbohydrate consumption right down(primarily to just in the morning if possible), as little fat as possible, but massive amount of protein. Combine this with added aerobic training and the fat will drop off you but at the same time allow you to maintain your lean mass. No carbonated drinks No egg yolks No more than 100g carbs a day(this still quite high) Limit fat intake to 30g 3 - 4 meals a day consisting of nothing but protein A good quality multi vitamin The above is working nicely for me | ||
| YoungBuck | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 10:16 |
Member 3344, 39 posts | Post Edited: 29.01.2012 @ 10:16 AM by YoungBuck lol i cant imagine it be hard for a 150kg man to lose a bit of weight, i went from 123 to 107 in 5 months 3 of which i did no cardio. i was eventually eating 2000 calories a day with 250-300 protein and i did not get weaker at all. i gained strength, when you diet its only temporery weakness since u dont have all the nutrients in ur muscle (u probably know this anyway but im just saying anyway) but your body adapts right, thast how we gain muscle and strength so, you need to cut calories bit by bit and increase cardio bit by bit, cause i guess if you go balls to the wall you'll adapt after a short while and stop losing weight. way i see it anyway.also the carb thing.. i love carbs but most people say only have them for breakfast, pre and instant post workout. | ||
| slimsim | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 10:40 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 29.01.2012 @ 11:14 AM by slimsim Hi Thing,Personally I don't agree with the vit B injections. Whilst the B vitamins are heavily involved in energy production in the body if you were deficient in them it would be showing up in the form of peri-peri or pernicious anaemia. T3 & T4 are thyroid hormones. They are great at speeding up the metabolism but not if you want to be classed as a natural athlete, which from other threads you seem to feel quite strongly about. I'd recommend keeping a food diary to check exactly what you are consuming. When I used to compete in BBing I'd do this and sometimes it can be a bit of an eye opener cos I'd see a couple of biscuits here a bar of chocolate there which I never really thought about when condidering my calorie intake. Obviously, it only works if you're 100% honest about it. Finally, if you can do some cardio I'd recommend doing it as late at night as possible. The body works on a 'circadian' rythm and metabolism naturally slows down at night so if you can help to prevent this great. Also try and make the cardio fairly intense as this leads to an increased metabolism for longer after the exercise has ended. Good luck Si EDIT: beri-beri, not peri-peri. There are 0 spicy sauces associated with vitamin b deficiency!!   | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 10:51 |
 Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | On the food diary front... You got a smart phone like blackberry / iphone / andriod? There's an app called 'calorie counter' by a company called fat secret. Its free and it uses the internet to search for nutritional profiles of pretty much anything you throw at it. Before using it I was loosing weight at about 2 lbs a month but thought u had it all dialled in. I was wrong. I was 700 kcal over where I should have been. I'm now consuming 3400 and pretty much maintaining my weight but getting stronger/slimer. On the cardio.. Early morning fasted cardio I liked. But the best imo is either barbell complexs or tabata rowing. Another handy tip is keep a 2L bottle filled with water and BCAA powder all day to keep you as anabolic as possinle for as long as possible throught the day. | ||
| Steve | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 11:03 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Sean_Clarke said:Forget drugs, it's all in the diet. Cut all carbohydrate consumption right down(primarily to just in the morning if possible), as little fat as possible, but massive amount of protein. Combine this with added aerobic training and the fat will drop off you but at the same time allow you to maintain your lean mass. No carbonated drinks No egg yolks No more than 100g carbs a day(this still quite high) Limit fat intake to 30g 3 - 4 meals a day consisting of nothing but protein A good quality multi vitamin The above is working nicely for me Many people in the "low carb community" tend to go for low carb, high fat to loose weight with protein levels being kept roughly constant. | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 11:42 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Sean_Clarke said:Forget drugs, it's all in the diet. Cut all carbohydrate consumption right down(primarily to just in the morning if possible), as little fat as possible, but massive amount of protein. Combine this with added aerobic training and the fat will drop off you but at the same time allow you to maintain your lean mass. No carbonated drinks No egg yolks No more than 100g carbs a day(this still quite high) Limit fat intake to 30g 3 - 4 meals a day consisting of nothing but protein A good quality multi vitamin The above is working nicely for me 100 carbs is 100x4=400 cals 30 fat is 30x9=270 cals so 670 cals excluding protein, say he has 250g protein, thats 1000 cals? so 1670 cals a day for a 150kg man?!?!?!?! ever heard of leptin? | ||
| martin | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 13:23 |
 Why not just not get fat in the first place? Member 132, 1406 posts SQ 331, BP 200, DL 320851.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Assuming your losing weight for health I'd try to steer clear of drugs, kinda defeats the whole point  If an inj. vitamin mixture was an option I seem to remember the horse mixture Kynoselen was rather liked years ago for it's effects. Anyways, to boost metabolism slighly you could play around with meal timings. The longer you go without food the faster it will become short term. So waiting an hour or two pre breakfast could help. Also not eating an hour or two pre bed may help. Most things will only offer very small differences at best - the big bit has to come from food and exercise. Add a good multivitamin too. | ||
| Thing | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 16:23 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | ok so if this is a food itake issue i have then i will have to just adjust what i'm doing what i do 5 days a week morning 4 eggs 2 actimels and a digestive enzyme meal 2 one bag of athlete beef jerky meal 3 3 scoops of whey (alternate this with tuna shake) meal 4 what ever the meat choice is at work plus some cheese and veg meal 5 left over meat from dinner previous night meal 6 normal diner but with a lot less carbs meal 7 2 scoops of whey i'll change to this morning coffee with sweetner meal 1 2 hours after getting up 2 scoops of whey protein meal 2 tuna shake meal 3 beef jerk + that chicken trick in the kettle meal 4 2 scoops of whey meal 5 nomal dinner meal 6 some cold meat plus i'll take some fiber powder and what about fruit in the mornings? and i'll leave my veg untill dinner at Tea time | ||
| sexymikehowarth | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 16:25 |
 Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Are you getting enough natural salts in your diet? You may need to add salt solutions if you don't replace them after exercise... | ||
| Thing | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 16:29 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | sexymikehowarth said:Are you getting enough natural salts in your diet? You may need to add salt solutions if you don't replace them after exercise... na i get plenty i use one of those salts sachet for sehydration in my water in my sessions | ||
| Robbo | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 18:01 |
 When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Neil, how long have you been doing that diet and how is the weight loss going since you started? | ||
| Thing | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 19:02 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Robbo said:Neil, how long have you been doing that diet and how is the weight loss going since you started? i got the weight off that i put one with the pregrabilin but it seems to have stopped with the med i'm on from my doc and i'm clueless in how to kick start it again. | ||
| hrat | | ... | 29-01-2012 @ 19:09 |
 Member 2272, 339 posts SQ 102.5, BP 50, DL 140292.5 kgs @ 65kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 29.01.2012 @ 19:10 PM by hrat Can you manage some sort of intervals? Bike sprints, bodyweight squats, rowing, anything that gets your heart rate up, do that for a minute, then walk about to recover for 2 minutes, and slowly increase work and decrease recovery. Supposedly theres an extra boost afterwards called EPOC, that's your metabolism staying fired up. Can last for hours if the work is intense enough.ETA; green tea supposedly helps too a little. And I have heard that if you've been restricting calories for a while, relaxing for a week then restricting again can help. | ||
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