When to do power cleans?
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| Wayne_Cowdrey |  | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 00:20 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | John_C said: But Jack says he always struggles with squat and he's only doing it once a week... surely makes sense to do it more in that case? Not necessarily. Jack is still young. Brute strength matures over time. I'd say there's no need to increase his work load. He's already hurt his back. Patience! | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 09:20 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | a lot of very good (but contradictory) advice. thanks! | ||
| Simeon | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 12:55 |
 tight in the hole Member 2057, 3121 posts SQ 205, BP 140, DL 260605.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | My squat form goes out of the window if I'm not squatting 2-4 times a week. But it does mean you have reduce the intensity/volume of it. I think it just depends, the key is to try something for a while, if it works stick with it, if not then try something else. | ||
| John_C | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 13:06 |
 Member 2213, 300 posts SQ 235, BP 130, DL 215580.0 kgs @ 75kgs Eq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: Injuries don't come solely from too high a workload/high frequency. A lot of the time, it's from imperfections in form. Form improves with high frequency -> less injuries. I've personally had less niggles / pains since increasing frequency.Not necessarily. Jack is still young. Brute strength matures over time. I'd say there's no need to increase his work load. He's already hurt his back. Patience! | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 13:08 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | John_C said: Form improves with high frequency Not necessarily! You could just be performing a bad lift more often! (Sorry to keep contradicting you  ) | ||
| milsy | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 13:20 |
 Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: Not necessarily! You could just be performing a bad lift more often! (Sorry to keep contradicting you )The more times you practice a lift during the week will surly benefit you more than just doing the moment once per week with a heavy weight Like john said I have found I have a lot less niggles than the way I used to train | ||
| streak | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 14:20 |
they call him the streak Member 2002, 400 posts SQ 182.5, BP 130, DL 240552.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Are you on 531? Wendler says to do them before deadlifting. | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 14:35 |
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 31.10.2011 @ 14:47 PM by JackRevans streak said:Are you on 531? Wendler says to do them before deadlifting. Double post | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 14:36 |
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | streak said:Are you on 531? Wendler says to do them before deadlifting. No I'm not but that seems like a good idea. So basically, putting together various bits of information, how does this sound: Do them light before squats, Alternate the deadlift day between normal deadliifts one week and heavier powercleans with speed deadlifts and light squats the other week. How about that? | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 14:41 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | That sounds good to me. | ||
| JC | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 14:44 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Re the squats, there is no correct answer...I'm suprised there is even argumnets about it TBH Some will gain well from squatting once a week, some from twice, some from crazy Smolov 4-6 times a week s**t..... | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 31-10-2011 @ 14:47 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | JC said: Re the squats, there is no correct answer...I'm suprised there is even argumnets about it TBH Some will gain well from squatting once a week, some from twice, some from crazy Smolov 4-6 times a week s**t..... Note I said "not necessarily", which is a general answer! The answer is... whatever works for the individual! | ||