Ideas on protein Consumption
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| Thing |  | Ideas on protein Consumption | 26-06-2009 @ 14:16 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Rights guys i know this has been asked sometime before but who believes that i high protein consumption leads to strength gains? the reason i asked this is because i recently bought mens health muscles and fitness and flex magazine to get some ideas for different training exercises for abs. but i notices that the 3 different mag's had more or less the same view on the 1 to 1.5 g per lb in body weight ideally 1.5 for strength related training. for instance some one my size would need to consume between 340g and 508 grams in protein every day to gain good muscle according to these people. but i have read before that 2 to 2.5g per kg is also another whey of an idea of what you should eat to gain strength, now i have tried both ways and found that using the 1 to 1.5 g per lb in weight that i felt bloated and full all the time and i did gain strength. the last way using the 2 to 2.5g per kg in weight i didnt feel as bloated and and as full but still made strength gains. now since i have had the injury i have kept the protein intake to around the 150g to 200g a day and i have still made strength gains maybe this is due to the fact that i have kept a good carb intake too as i have done in the other ways. now what i would like to know is how many of you guys use these guidelines or just ram as much food into you bodies. i'm asking this as i'm just f**king bamboozled with the results i have seen when on these three different food intakes as i have still made strength gains. and i'm now under the impression that aslong as you keep carbs high enough to be used as energy through the day then your protein intake will be used for muscle rebuilding. thoughts and ideas are very welcome cheers Neil | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:25 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22059 posts | I think people get too scientific about it! Also, it's a very individual thing. Just eat what you want! If you're struggling to gain mass - eat more! If you're getting fat - eat less, or increase your activity! Simple! | ||
| richards9876 | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:28 |
 Still mostly bodybuilding Member 501, 10465 posts SQ 220, BP 150, DL 250620.0 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | To be honest i try and have protein and carbs with every meal. If im making good gains then i continue with what works - if im gaining too much fat and not much strength then ill tweek it slightly. Just see what works for you and go with it - as you get heavier youll need to alter your diet anyway. | ||
| just_t | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:31 |
 Mr.Fit Member 164, 5028 posts SQ 170, BP 135, DL 230535.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | really weight training athletes are reccomended to consume 1.5-2.0 g per kg bodyweight of protein. the latter for new trainers and/or those on a weight gain regieme. not gona make a great deal of difference | ||
| Thing | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:34 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | this is it lads, as these magizines seem to conradick them selfs all the time or every month on what to eat and what to train, so no wonder people who start weight training for the first time are nearly always taken in by these mag's. cheers for the reply lads | ||
| just_t | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:36 |
Mr.Fit Member 164, 5028 posts SQ 170, BP 135, DL 230535.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Thing said: this is it lads, as these magizines seem to conradick them selfs all the time or every month on what to eat and what to train, so no wonder people who start weight training for the first time are nearly always taken in by these mag's. cheers for the reply lads the figure i gave is from books ive read and review papers. youll be more than fine with 1.5-2g as matt would say EAT MORE CARBS | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:37 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22059 posts | Those magazines are s**t!! | ||
| MattGriff | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:40 |
 Member 194, 3976 posts | just_t said: Thing said: this is it lads, as these magizines seem to conradick them selfs all the time or every month on what to eat and what to train, so no wonder people who start weight training for the first time are nearly always taken in by these mag's. cheers for the reply lads the figure i gave is from books ive read and review papers. youll be more than fine with 1.5-2g as matt would say EAT MORE CARBS He would indeed, 1.5-2g per kg protien 5-7g per kg carbs is good enough, but like many said don't be overly anal about it. Also drink Guinness http://gigfy.com/1steamroller.jpg | ||
| JC | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:43 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: I think people get too scientific about it! Also, it's a very individual thing. Just eat what you want! If you're struggling to gain mass - eat more! If you're getting fat - eat less, or increase your activity! Simple! Has it spot on for me Neil I take no protein supplements whatsoeva | ||
| Thing | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:45 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Matt and Shawn would both say that whilst Joni would say something else. but i do agree that these magazines are s**t in some instances but in other in training exercises it good. | ||
| just_t | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:47 |
Mr.Fit Member 164, 5028 posts SQ 170, BP 135, DL 230535.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | joni is vegan is he not? alot more care needs to be put into diet if your vegan, thats probally why | ||
| spug_myers | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 14:57 |
 is weaker than a guy who trains in the poshest gym Member 21, 70 posts SQ 220, BP 155, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | It's in the magazine's interest to make something appear complicated, then offer the solution. If you're eating a lot the chances of being deficient in anything are pretty slim. I'm also vegan, and don't really give much thought to the protein question. | ||
| Thing | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 15:21 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | spug_myers said: It's in the magazine's interest to make something appear complicated, then offer the solution. If you're eating a lot the chances of being deficient in anything are pretty slim. I'm also vegan, and don't really give much thought to the protein question. yeah me and joni spoke about being vegan and the amount of food he eats and the protein he takes. this is another reason why i think the whole protein intake thing is not complicated as being vegan your limited to the protein source and quality. but joni, buzz and yourself have proved the your can make good strength gains on these diets also | ||
| MattGriff | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 15:42 |
Member 194, 3976 posts | JC said: Wayne_Cowdrey said: I think people get too scientific about it! Also, it's a very individual thing. Just eat what you want! If you're struggling to gain mass - eat more! If you're getting fat - eat less, or increase your activity! Simple! Has it spot on for me Neil I take no protein supplements whatsoeva What about suppliments that help increase your protien synthesis?  | ||
| paul_richards | | ... | 26-06-2009 @ 16:00 |
 I personally prefer the stiffest possible. Member 158, 3110 posts SQ 170, BP 107.5, DL 222.5500.0 kgs @ 67.4kgs UnEq | Lemon et al did studies into protein consumption, I think the evidence suggests that athletes benefit (i.e make quicker strength increases) from up to about 1.5g per Kg, after that it makes no difference. All this 2g per Ib crap is aimed at BBs and I have seen no evidence that an intake this high has any benefit at all. Griff: I dont think the supps you are on about would be found in a typical supplement store. | ||