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KevC86Icon...08-05-2021 @ 08:13 
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unit94 said:I'll also get the spreadsheet out but groups are needed first!


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The_Lone_WolfIcon...10-05-2021 @ 09:07 
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samue1son said:
Oberst is lightning quick and easily the strongest statically.




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lukiIcon...11-05-2021 @ 14:39 
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Post Edited: 11.05.2021 @ 14:42 PM by luki
If knaack deadlift is from standard height for final, will we see a return of Novistraps? Is there any rule about using straps that turn the lift into an 18 or 22" deadlift?
PeteHodgsonIcon...11-05-2021 @ 16:26 
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luki said:If knaack deadlift is from standard height for final, will we see a return of Novistraps? Is there any rule about using straps that turn the lift into an 18 or 22" deadlift?


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KevC86Icon...11-05-2021 @ 19:12 
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Post Edited: 11.05.2021 @ 19:12 PM by KevC86
luki said:If knaack deadlift is from standard height for final, will we see a return of Novistraps? Is there any rule about using straps that turn the lift into an 18 or 22" deadlift?


Several promoters that work with giants have been using the rule that the thumb must stay around the bar.
It seems likely Giants put that rule out, so i expect it to be used if they pull on a standard bar again.
SamthepigmanIcon...11-05-2021 @ 19:59 
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PeteHodgson said:
luki said:If knaack deadlift is from standard height for final, will we see a return of Novistraps? Is there any rule about using straps that turn the lift into an 18 or 22" deadlift?


Don’t get me started!


Unfortunately it's just the day and age we live in.
In my opinion though, people can't moan about the strap cheat when they agree with straps in the first place.
It's more a case of who can lift the most weight these days as apposed to who's the strongest.
PeteHodgsonIcon...11-05-2021 @ 20:26 
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Samthepigman said:
Unfortunately it's just the day and age we live in.
In my opinion though, people can't moan about the strap cheat when they agree with straps in the first place.
It's more a case of who can lift the most weight these days as apposed to who's the strongest.

I can moan about it! A lot. :-)
jtIcon...11-05-2021 @ 20:43 
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Samthepigman said:
Unfortunately it's just the day and age we live in.
In my opinion though, people can't moan about the strap cheat when they agree with straps in the first place.
It's more a case of who can lift the most weight these days as apposed to who's the strongest.

Surely the person who can lift most weight is the strongest?
samue1sonIcon...11-05-2021 @ 20:56 
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jt said:
Surely the person who can lift most weight is the strongest?


Who is the better forklift operator?
Who used the deadlift suit the best?

I always feel with strength, that it means nothing if isn't as raw as it can be. But I know these days I am in the minority.

Straps. Even belts. Strength is power, muscle, joints, tendons, bones.
billynomatesIcon...11-05-2021 @ 20:59 
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jt said:
Surely the person who can lift most weight is the strongest?

Guys can cheat or find shortcuts, and sadly there seems to be a lot of acceptance of it.
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billynomates said:
Guys can cheat or find shortcuts, and sadly there seems to be a lot of acceptance of it.


it isnt cheating if it is not prohibited in the rules. the onus should be on promoters to deem what is and isnt acceptable and incorporate that into their ruleset. if athletes find a loophole that is on the promoter.

part of strongman is being able to figure out a more efficient way to move weight than your opponents.
SamthepigmanIcon...11-05-2021 @ 21:05 
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If you need straps or a suit or any other form of equipment to lift a weight, then you can't lift the weight. If you can't do it naked, you can't do it.

Novas most recent WSM training video on YouTube was good.
billynomatesIcon...11-05-2021 @ 21:13 
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samue1son said:
Who is the better forklift operator?
Who used the deadlift suit the best?
I always feel with strength, that it means nothing if isn't as raw as it can be. But I know these days I am in the minority.
Straps. Even belts. Strength is power, muscle, joints, tendons, bones.

Agreed, but as we know WSM is a TV show first and a contest second. Do you think there would be much less interest if it was a pure contest with no lifting aids?
lukiIcon...11-05-2021 @ 21:25 
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PeteHodgson said:
Don’t get me started!

Are you not going to post the video? I cued it up for you and everything.

When Puds shouldered the fingals fingers up, before they banned this, that was a good cheat. Same when the Iranian used the tire to hold the shield at Strength Island in Bahrain this year. Genius.

Novistraps is like when Thor knee bumps strict viking press. Down with this sort of thing.
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luki said:
Are you not going to post the video? I cued it up for you and everything.
When Puds shouldered the fingals fingers up, before they banned this, that was a good cheat. Same when the Iranian used the tire to hold the shield at Strength Island in Bahrain this year. Genius.
Novistraps is like when Thor knee bumps strict viking press. Down with this sort of thing.


Ha ha. I daren’t rewatch that video!
Love the Father Ted reference!
Tbh Novi now looks so strong he doesn’t need to cheat. But I’ll find another reason not to like him!

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