Cheating in sport or just getting an edge ?

PaulSavage said:
Mayweather has all the records and he's 150lb soaking wet.

PaulSavage said:
Completely untrue, women weren't even allowed to play sports not long back, it's not about ability against men. Before Conor McGregor Ronda Rousey was the highest paid ufc competitor ever. That's only slightly after women's mma existed big picture. Wait a while.
Women's is the fastest rising division in strongman and millions upon millions of female lifters could care less about your ignorant and sexist views. You are no better than any of them and even with your genetically advanced male body, there's women out there that could beat you at nigh on every sport going. A strange fact considering they are all just doing it for no more than 'something to do' as you put it.

ChrisMcCarthy said:
But would Mayweather beat Joshua?
Frankly I'd rather watch Middleweights box rather than Heavyweights since 99 / 100 as you are practically guaranteed a far more interesting fight - which is why there is a lot of money to be made there and always has been - but in terms of one beating the other...

KevC86 said:
As much as i love Ronda (and I'll happily admit to sporting a massive crush) she succeeded in UFC because she was in there early. She was never a spectacular fighter, nor would she ever have been a match for a male fighter.
Her earnings came from her marketability, not from her fighting skills.
As for all these female athletes that are better than me, thats good for them. Although i cant imagine many of them take pride in being better than a man who has never trained in their sport.
The only female i know well who competes in professional sport is a footballer. And while I've no doubt she is a far better footballer than me, she is never going to earn £100.000 a week, because she wasn't born with a penis.
The only sport i train for is strongman and I've yet to meet the strongwoman that will beat me, and thats despite me being only mediocre at my chosen sport.
The top men in every sport will always be better than the top woman, if that wasnt the case we wouldnt need seperate records or divisions for each sex.

PaulSavage said:
Nobody is saying the top women can beat the top men. Nobody said Ronda would have beat the top guys. She competed in her devision, women's bantamweight, and made more money than any male ever did. She could care less about having a penis or if you have crush on her. There's tons of women that could beat you at the vast majority of sports that they also don't train at.

KevC86 said:
Ok, I'll worry about all these women that can beat me, you worry about what excuse to use next time you bottle a comp. Deal?

PaulSavage said:
Why does he need to beat Joshua??He's never fought outside the weight classes he's been in and is the highest paid boxer ever by a long way.

ChrisMcCarthy said:Weight Classes may increase popularity but they're only there to give the rest of Humanity something to do.

umpalumpalifter said:
Think I must be a chauvinistic pig too. Luckily despite everyone trying to make prize purses equal the thing which is telling doesn't change -viewing figures. Look at Wimbledon, the two finals don't compare as people aren't as interested.
The only way to make things equal would be to only have one open class in all sports with winner taking all.
As soon as you opt for divisions, whether it's
*weight
*age
*PEDs
*gender
You are automatically admitting you aren't the best. Sport in its basic format is always about finding the best - that's why the heavyweights in boxing take the biggest prizes.

scruffmcbuff said:
Best post on here IMO.
Altho i understand why the classes exist and i dont argue that, if you need a calculator to prove lifter a is stronger then lifter b does it even count!?!

IainKendrick said:
You'd have to be a moron to do that. You could claim to be a 'better' lifter though

PaulSavage said:
Mayweather has all the records and he's 150lb soaking wet.

umpalumpalifter said:
He has the best record of beating every other 150lb guy -put him in with a bigger guy (not even top heavyweights) and he will probably be beat - same goes for every strongman, powerlifter, weightlifting etc. Size matters, ultimately you want to know whose the best full stop, not best within a ten pound range.
There's so many talented female,athletes out there but ultimately against the best men they won't win - therefore in sport you are making a concession and the comment of women's classes being there to appease the masses and increase participation is true - same as weight, masters etc

umpalumpalifter said:
He has the best record of beating every other 150lb guy -put him in with a bigger guy (not even top heavyweights) and he will probably be beat - same goes for every strongman, powerlifter, weightlifting etc. Size matters, ultimately you want to know whose the best full stop, not best within a ten pound range.
There's so many talented female,athletes out there but ultimately against the best men they won't win - therefore in sport you are making a concession and the comment of women's classes being there to appease the masses and increase participation is true - same as weight, masters etc

AdamT said:
I get your logic, but many would rather watch Mayweather and Pacquiao, than lumps like Joshua.
Far more speed, skill and finesse.