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dannyboy73 | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 15:17 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2020 @ 15:28 PM by dannyboy73 so is having a house bigger than you need when families live is small flats..but thats never stopped those who can now has it?... morals only when they suit the establishment...2008 was a heist. Most of us lost big time and continue to lose. My point is, we are never all in it together. that would be socialism and sadly we do not have that system in place.If we did, lock down would just be boring and not the economic disaster we are about to face (or should I say, 90% of us) billynomates said: Stockpiling is very irresponsible Danny | ||
slow_lift_joe | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 17:19 | |
Interesting Member 6186, 245 posts | Your right Dannyboy 100%. We are all in this together. No you lot of politicians F**ked up, the whole lot of you. Now we got 14th century measures like quarantine because you never funded or invested in a vaccine programme into these coronavirus previously. Why because there was no financial return for big industry. Instead you relied on small bio tech and non profit science. No trails, no pandemic investment...most governments have been caught with their pants down. No we are not all in this together, the new slogan should read. The politicians did not invest in the science and the clear risk. They are inept, complacent and incompetent. The evidence is clear and people are waking up to their sheer arrogance and conceit. | ||
dannyboy73 | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 17:46 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2020 @ 17:47 PM by dannyboy73 | ||
dannyboy73 | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 14:17 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | hold onto your hard hats boys 3 weeks until the apex and 684 deaths today and that only includes if you died in hospital..care homes excluded France included care home yesterday... 1355 in a day. Stay home stay safe | ||
BigMacca | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 15:02 | |
understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9944 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:hold onto your hard hats boys 3 weeks until the apex and 684 deaths today and that only includes if you died in hospital..care homes excluded France included care home yesterday... 1355 in a day. Stay home stay safe Deaths outside hospital have been included since Tuesday in the UK. It's still misleading as the government figures include anyone who was COVID19 positive at the time of death regardless (so could include a car accident death for example) The office for national statistics will be a better guide as they use the death certificate and will only count them as COVID19 if it has been listed as a contributing/main factor. However, the OFNS stats take time to compile and there is currently around an 11 day lag (we are due be stats tomorrow). These stats also list non COVID19 deaths so we should start to be able to build a picture up over the next few weeks. In March 2019, there were around 1350 deaths per day in England and Wales, so that will be a decent enough baseline. However, even that number will be affected by the current 'lockdown' and things like traffic fatalities will be down as well. Unfortunately, is just going to take time before we know how this is actually playing out. Re:France 800 of those deaths were from care homes, however they were from over a few weeks, not just one day (they counted the backlog all at once). Still not good though | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 15:41 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/02/coronavirus-leaked-wuhan-institute-virology-richard-ebright-shi-zhengli/ however dangerous this thing is im pretty much sold on it being man made at this point. | ||
macroth | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 15:53 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said:https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/02/coronavirus-leaked-wuhan-institute-virology-richard-ebright-shi-zhengli/ however dangerous this thing is im pretty much sold on it being man made at this point. Man made? Where do you get that from the link you posted? | ||
dannyboy73 | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 16:06 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 03.04.2020 @ 16:31 PM by dannyboy73 informative sir. tbh I though around 1500 av daily in the UK. I hope proper analysis are conducted post this phase to see just how many people have died as a by-product of Covid 19. Close to home, an elderly man has died 3 doors along of heart attack, he was getting panic attacks since this began. Shame, was a nice fella. BigMacca said: Deaths outside hospital have been included since Tuesday in the UK. It's still misleading as the government figures include anyone who was COVID19 positive at the time of death regardless (so could include a car accident death for example) The office for national statistics will be a better guide as they use the death certificate and will only count them as COVID19 if it has been listed as a contributing/main factor. However, the OFNS stats take time to compile and there is currently around an 11 day lag (we are due be stats tomorrow). These stats also list non COVID19 deaths so we should start to be able to build a picture up over the next few weeks. In March 2019, there were around 1350 deaths per day in England and Wales, so that will be a decent enough baseline. However, even that number will be affected by the current 'lockdown' and things like traffic fatalities will be down as well. Unfortunately, is just going to take time before we know how this is actually playing out. Re:France 800 of those deaths were from care homes, however they were from over a few weeks, not just one day (they counted the backlog all at once). Still not good though | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 16:32 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | macroth said: Man made? Where do you get that from the link you posted? I dont in entirety. I form my opinion from synthesising everything that I have read on the subject, weighing up probabilities and coming up with a hypothesis. the link I posted is a small part of that synthesis - if it indeed escaped from the biolab the likelihood would be that it was man made. there is a lot more evidence following this line for those who wish to look for it. | ||
macroth | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 16:50 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: if it indeed escaped from the biolab the likelihood would be that it was man made. No. They study bats and bat-borne viruses. They store those (natural) bat viruses for research purposes. Just because it's a "lab" doesn't mean they create viruses. Calling it a "biolab" changes nothing. It's like saying the egg that fell out of my refrigerator was "man made". | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 17:04 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 03.04.2020 @ 17:05 PM by WILLSAN macroth said: No. They study bats and bat-borne viruses. They store those (natural) bat viruses for research purposes. Just because it's a "lab" doesn't mean they create viruses. Calling it a "biolab" changes nothing. It's like saying the egg that fell out of my refrigerator was "man made". editing a virus genome is exactly what a level 4 biolab would be doing. that is how they study virus' and create medicines and vaccines for them.. ..or create bioweapons. but only a crazy person would suggest that communist china might be experimenting with bioweapons. | ||
macroth | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 17:14 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: editing a virus genome is exactly what a level 4 biolab would be doing. that is how they study virus' and create medicines and vaccines for them.. ..or create bioweapons. but only a crazy person would suggest that communist china might be experimenting with bioweapons. So China's only official level 4 is also its unofficial bioweapon factory. Makes perfect sense. By the way, your link about the virus possibly leaking from the lab is mostly based on something said by a man named Richard Ebright. Guess what this person's also said: “There’s absolutely nothing in the genome sequence of this virus that indicates the virus was engineered,” said Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University. “The possibility this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.” So, do you think he's a reliable source on both counts, or only where it fits your narrative? | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 17:22 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | macroth said: So, do you think he's a reliable source on both counts, or only where it fits your narrative? in a way yes. what do you think the political ramifications of an accusation as direct as that would be? I said: there is a lot more evidence following this line for those who wish to look for it. | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 17:23 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | macroth said: So China's only official level 4 is also its unofficial bioweapon factory. Makes perfect sense. only a crazy person would say that. | ||
macroth | ... | 03-04-2020 @ 17:28 | |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: macroth said: So, do you think he's a reliable source on both counts, or only where it fits your narrative? in a way yes. what do you think the political ramifications of an accusation as direct as that would be? I said: there is a lot more evidence following this line for those who wish to look for it. So he's lying about there being any genetic engineering involved, just to avoid friction between Governments? But he's also telling the truth when he says it's likely the lab mishandled the virus and unleashed it on the world, political ramifications be damned? | ||
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