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kyleIconWhy Push Press04-04-2014 @ 07:47 
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Instead of strict press to develop raw strength or jerk to develop power? Is it just an ego lift like a bounced bench press or are there legit reasons to push press instead of strict/jerk?
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I would say strict press develops better raw strength but Push press is Not an Ego lift....poeple including myself epd use pp in many ways to develop strength,explosive Power...
kyleIcon...04-04-2014 @ 08:04 
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jones105 said:I would say strict press develops better raw strength but Push press is Not an Ego lift....poeple including myself epd use pp in many ways to develop strength,explosive Power...


So why not jerk instead?

I feel push press is worst of both worlds - you can't be as fast or handle as much weight as a jerk, and there's too much cheating with your legs to develop shoulder strength as well as strict presss
BushyIcon...04-04-2014 @ 08:28 
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Have you tried jerking a yoke, block or dumbbell??
kyleIcon...04-04-2014 @ 08:32 
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Bushy said:Have you tried jerking a yoke, block or dumbbell??


I guess push presses do have a place for strongmen/circus lift performers who lift odd objects... but about everyone else?
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Strict for the Win. its brought my Shoulder strength up big time but i do feel that there is a place in training where Push press would be usfull, for instance in SM comps jerks, strict and PP area all acceptable ways to press a weight over head. so why not train all of them to become more functonally stronger.
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kyle said:
So why not jerk instead?
I feel push press is worst of both worlds - you can't be as fast or handle as much weight as a jerk, and there's too much cheating with your legs to develop shoulder strength as well as strict presss


Do you understand the mechanics of the lifts in question?!
kyleIcon...04-04-2014 @ 09:33 
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Strict = no leg movement
Push press = strict + some cheating with legs
Jerk = gymnastics with barbell

Anything else I'm missing????
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kyle said:Strict = no leg movement
Push press = strict + some cheating with legs
Jerk = gymnastics with barbell

Anything else I'm missing????



Ah ok, based on your only other thread and this answer I get it. Nearly wasted my time with a serious answer lol

Have fun Roll-Eyes
kyleIcon...04-04-2014 @ 09:38 
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lol just joking mate, but seriously what's the benefit of push pressing? A lot of pushpressing I see on this site and in real life are just people doing really unrefined jerks or people using there legs during self-proclaimed strict presses... Why pushpress if one already Jerk/Strict press if I'm not a circus man or strongman?
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kyle said:
So why not jerk instead?


because you touch yourself
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JackRevans said:
because you touch yourself


loal
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kyle said:
I guess push presses do have a place for strongmen[...] but (what) about everyone else?


Hmmm....I think you've come to the wrong forum. This isn't where "everyone" else hangs out...
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Post Edited: 04.04.2014 @ 09:48 AM by Wiegieboard
kyle said:
I guess push presses do have a place for strongmen/circus lift performers who lift odd objects... but about everyone else?


My two pence is that anything I've had to lift overhead in the real world that's been heavy enough to puah press has not been shaped like a barbell or balanced like one, from loading a tumbledryer onto a lorry with a broken lift to pushing the side of a fallen down garage back up I've push pressed even tthough I use the jerk whilst training max overhead with a barbell.
I feel that in most applications of strength for practical function, the pushpress is what I've used even though I barely train it.
That being said, I have jerked another human being overhead.

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