Why Push Press
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| kyle |  | Why Push Press | 04-04-2014 @ 07:47 |
Member 5278, 94 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Instead of strict press to develop raw strength or jerk to develop power? Is it just an ego lift like a bounced bench press or are there legit reasons to push press instead of strict/jerk? | ||
| minibig1 | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 07:59 |
Novice level log, open level deadlift Member 857, 2699 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 360790.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Lmao | ||
| jones105 | | ..... | 04-04-2014 @ 08:01 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | I would say strict press develops better raw strength but Push press is Not an Ego lift....poeple including myself epd use pp in many ways to develop strength,explosive Power... | ||
| kyle | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 08:04 |
Member 5278, 94 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | jones105 said:I would say strict press develops better raw strength but Push press is Not an Ego lift....poeple including myself epd use pp in many ways to develop strength,explosive Power... So why not jerk instead? I feel push press is worst of both worlds - you can't be as fast or handle as much weight as a jerk, and there's too much cheating with your legs to develop shoulder strength as well as strict presss | ||
| Bushy | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 08:28 |
I miss the bush. Member 3527, 196 posts SQ 232.5, BP 140, DL 280652.5 kgs @ 101kgs UnEq | Have you tried jerking a yoke, block or dumbbell?? | ||
| kyle | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 08:32 |
Member 5278, 94 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Bushy said:Have you tried jerking a yoke, block or dumbbell?? I guess push presses do have a place for strongmen/circus lift performers who lift odd objects... but about everyone else? | ||
| Thing | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 08:56 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Strict for the Win. its brought my Shoulder strength up big time but i do feel that there is a place in training where Push press would be usfull, for instance in SM comps jerks, strict and PP area all acceptable ways to press a weight over head. so why not train all of them to become more functonally stronger. | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:27 |
 the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | kyle said: So why not jerk instead? I feel push press is worst of both worlds - you can't be as fast or handle as much weight as a jerk, and there's too much cheating with your legs to develop shoulder strength as well as strict presss Do you understand the mechanics of the lifts in question?! | ||
| kyle | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:33 |
Member 5278, 94 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Strict = no leg movement Push press = strict + some cheating with legs Jerk = gymnastics with barbell Anything else I'm missing???? | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:35 |
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | kyle said:Strict = no leg movement Push press = strict + some cheating with legs Jerk = gymnastics with barbell Anything else I'm missing???? Ah ok, based on your only other thread and this answer I get it. Nearly wasted my time with a serious answer lol Have fun  | ||
| kyle | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:38 |
Member 5278, 94 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | lol just joking mate, but seriously what's the benefit of push pressing? A lot of pushpressing I see on this site and in real life are just people doing really unrefined jerks or people using there legs during self-proclaimed strict presses... Why pushpress if one already Jerk/Strict press if I'm not a circus man or strongman? | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:40 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | kyle said: So why not jerk instead? because you touch yourself | ||
| 1369phil | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:41 |
 doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | JackRevans said: because you touch yourself loal | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:41 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | kyle said: I guess push presses do have a place for strongmen[...] but (what) about everyone else? Hmmm....I think you've come to the wrong forum. This isn't where "everyone" else hangs out... | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 04-04-2014 @ 09:46 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 04.04.2014 @ 09:48 AM by Wiegieboard kyle said: I guess push presses do have a place for strongmen/circus lift performers who lift odd objects... but about everyone else? My two pence is that anything I've had to lift overhead in the real world that's been heavy enough to puah press has not been shaped like a barbell or balanced like one, from loading a tumbledryer onto a lorry with a broken lift to pushing the side of a fallen down garage back up I've push pressed even tthough I use the jerk whilst training max overhead with a barbell. I feel that in most applications of strength for practical function, the pushpress is what I've used even though I barely train it. That being said, I have jerked another human being overhead. | ||