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brownbearIcon...26-03-2015 @ 14:07 
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terryhollands said:Bad idea! Don't like double points for any event. The whole point of strongman is to test all areas of strength not make one more important than others. I can see the logic as it's s**t for tv guys not doing the stones but there must be another way.

Cut groups down to 5 per group which should stop guys getting such a lead as only a 4 point swing per event and let's face it the last place guys in groups don't add to the Comp but can upset points if the have 1 good event. If I was competing and the did this for overhead I wouldn't be happy

Platforms are lower in heats too hixxy you'll be happy about so at least it is fairer now.


lower heights do give shorter guys a chance

BUT its still easier for the giants right cause:

Longer arms, easier pickup
Thor can just one motion them all now

?
hixxy1985Icon...26-03-2015 @ 14:17 
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brownbear said:
lower heights do give shorter guys a chance
BUT its still easier for the giants right cause:
Longer arms, easier pickup
Thor can just one motion them all now
?


taller guy will always have advantage but shorter platforms does make it more even thats for sure.
So be like my chest height and thors knee height lol
terryhollandsIcon...26-03-2015 @ 14:44 
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Post Edited: 26.03.2015 @ 14:45 PM by terryhollands
brownbear said:
lower heights do give shorter guys a chance
BUT its still easier for the giants right cause:
Longer arms, easier pickup
Thor can just one motion them all now
?


That's why I said it was fairer Wink

Tbh different body shapes have different strong points and we shouldn't take an event out because it's better to be taller but now at least the shorter guys don't have to press the stones. We wouldn't suggest taking squat out cause it is harder for guys with a 34" inside leg.
brownbearIcon...26-03-2015 @ 14:52 
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terryhollands said:
That's why I said it was fairer Wink
Tbh different body shapes have different strong points and we shouldn't take an event out because it's better to be taller but now at least the shorter guys don't have to press the stones. We wouldn't suggest taking squat out cause it is harder for guys with a 34" inside leg.


Of course

WIldaeur or Felix for example are never going to beat Hix or Bleikaitis at pressing for example

and vice versa you'd expect Wildauer and Felix to beat the latter at deadlift

It is as you agree the double points which is unreasonable
brownbearIcon...26-03-2015 @ 14:52 
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terryhollands said:
That's why I said it was fairer Wink
Tbh different body shapes have different strong points and we shouldn't take an event out because it's better to be taller but now at least the shorter guys don't have to press the stones. We wouldn't suggest taking squat out cause it is harder for guys with a 34" inside leg.


Of course

WIldaeur or Felix for example are never going to beat Hix or Bleikaitis at pressing for example

and vice versa you'd expect Wildauer and Felix to beat the latter at deadlift

It is as you agree the double points which is unreasonable
terryhollandsIcon...26-03-2015 @ 15:25 
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brownbear said:
Of course
WIldaeur or Felix for example are never going to beat Hix or Bleikaitis at pressing for example
and vice versa you'd expect Wildauer and Felix to beat the latter at deadlift
It is as you agree the double points which is unreasonable


No event should ever carry more weight than others. It's also why I disagree so strongly with 2 pressing events especially in a 5 event comp
donnieIcon...26-03-2015 @ 17:09 
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congrats terry

big news !
brownbearIcon...26-03-2015 @ 18:37 
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terryhollands said:
No event should ever carry more weight than others. It's also why I disagree so strongly with 2 pressing events especially in a 5 event comp


I know it's not the same, but what about when we see loading, deadlift, farmers, stones in same comp

obviously not same movement, but all test back strength with some testing grip too
terryhollandsIcon...26-03-2015 @ 21:48 
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brownbear said:
I know it's not the same, but what about when we see loading, deadlift, farmers, stones in same comp
obviously not same movement, but all test back strength with some testing grip too


Loading a stones I agree shouldn't go together as they are basically the same event. Farmers and deadlift although test similar muscles are different enough to be justified.
donnieIcon...26-03-2015 @ 22:21 
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hix and blekaitis in the final and shaw can forget about the tittle this year
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...27-03-2015 @ 00:05 
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Congratulations to Mr and Mrs Hollands! Happy

Double points idea is s**t.
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...27-03-2015 @ 00:21 
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How about you don't score any points unless you get 4+ stones up?

(Probably equally s**t/flawed, but just a thought.)
samue1sonIcon...27-03-2015 @ 14:41 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:How about you don't score any points unless you get 4+ stones up?

(Probably equally s**t/flawed, but just a thought.)


Um.

10 points for EFFORT.
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...27-03-2015 @ 16:29 
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The alternative suggestions are flooding in!

Financial incentives for completing/winning the stones?

Just leave it as it is. If someone has dominated the heat they've earned the right to plonk one stone on and go through to the final.
MJGIcon...27-03-2015 @ 16:40 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:The alternative suggestions are flooding in!

Financial incentives for completing/winning the stones?

Just leave it as it is. If someone has dominated the heat they've earned the right to plonk one stone on and go through to the final.


Just 5 events in the heat's would solve the problem I think. It would also mean we could have an extra event in the final which is badly needed.

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