Koklyaev 242.5x3 BTN jerk
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| Wigan |  | ... | 09-02-2011 @ 21:25 |
 a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6851 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | I think it is perhaps a little short sighted to say this has no carry over to SM. Koklayev is a pedigree out and out weightlifter as JC rightly implies. He turned to SM a within the last few years, no? Rumour has it he has had little access to events training, and his training has remained very much weightlifting focused. He placed top three in the Arnolds? Robbed a place by dodgy reps being given to Pfister on the DB? Placed 3rd in his first appearance in WSM? No carry over? Seems hard to believe.. | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 09-02-2011 @ 23:22 |
 9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | MrSmall said: But it doesn't have any carry over for you? Not being a dick here Terry that just comes across a bit odd, do you mean you've tried it at some point? i can't do 242.5 btn no! and yes i have trained them in the past and all it helped was my btn not any other overhead | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 09-02-2011 @ 23:28 |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | Wigan said:I think it is perhaps a little short sighted to say this has no carry over to SM. Koklayev is a pedigree out and out weightlifter as JC rightly implies. He turned to SM a within the last few years, no? Rumour has it he has had little access to events training, and his training has remained very much weightlifting focused. He placed top three in the Arnolds? Robbed a place by dodgy reps being given to Pfister on the DB? Placed 3rd in his first appearance in WSM? No carry over? Seems hard to believe.. i don't think anyone said weightlifting has no carryover! of course it does! i actually think weightlifters have a better chance of crossing over than pl do. do i feel for me btn jerks have carryover, no, maybe it does for misha! not that i am bad mouthing misha as he is a friend of mine but he has been doing strongman a lot longer than you make it sound! he was competing international quite a bit before i was. granted last year was his first wsm but he did place top 3 at ifsa worlds more than once which was argueably a tougher contest. | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 09-02-2011 @ 23:37 |
 Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | I think that if you jerk the majority of your pressing stuff then btn and front jerks have a carry over. If you are more raw power, or push presser then the carry over is very limited. I have found that in my experience they improve my press. | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 09-02-2011 @ 23:38 |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | BigKen said:I think that if you jerk the majority of your pressing stuff then btn and front jerks have a carry over. If you are more raw power, or push presser then the carry over is very limited. I have found that in my experience they improve my press. probably why i get no benefit out of them! my pressing has zero finese | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 09-02-2011 @ 23:41 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | All about the tech with me bro haha, pressing never looked so good!  | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 00:34 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22081 posts | Very impressive weightlifting vid!! As I've said before, I don't like this as a strongman event. Would snatch ever be a strongman event? No! This shouldn't either. ursus said: Gary Taylor has done 270k single without a split on an olympic bar . 263, I believe  | ||
| Duncan | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 00:49 |
 deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq | Wayne_Cowdrey said:Very impressive weightlifting vid!! As I've said before, I don't like this as a strongman event. Would snatch ever be a strongman event? No! This shouldn't either. 263, I believe but thats like saying the front/back squat shouldnt be strongman events either, as they are used for training the olympic lifts. | ||
| mikehowarth | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:00 |
 Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said:Very impressive weightlifting vid!! As I've said before, I don't like this as a strongman event. Would snatch ever be a strongman event? No! This shouldn't either. 263, I believe That was a Split jerk though was it not? We all have preferences, given your short frame it's not a huge surprise you like partial deads and strict presses too Basically everybody is different and diversity should be encouraged I'm not saying it should be a staple event, but it's a fundamental demonstration of a specific type of strength that if practiced is very impressive in any crazy game, sm included | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:02 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22081 posts | Duncan said: but thats like saying the front/back squat shouldnt be strongman events either, as they are used for training the olympic lifts. No it's not. Front squat and back squat aren't purely weightlifting movements and aren't highly technical. Would javelin be a valid strongman event? | ||
| Duncan | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:15 |
deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: No it's not. Front squat and back squat aren't purely weightlifting movements and aren't highly technical. Would javelin be a valid strongman event? Why should the technical difficulty of a movement prevent it from being an event? The atlas stones themselves have a large element of technique to them do them not, in terms of hand placement, lapping it and them "popping" it up onto the platform? | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:26 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22081 posts | Duncan said: Why should the technical difficulty of a movement prevent it from being an event? The atlas stones themselves have a large element of technique to them do them not, in terms of hand placement, lapping it and them "popping" it up onto the platform? Technical difficulty... combined with good shoulder flexibility. Some people can't press from behind the neck at all. An event like this would just hand victory to a weightlifter. No contest! I repeat my question - would javelin be a valid strongman event? | ||
| mikehowarth | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:32 |
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | It all turns to s**t at this point | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:33 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11343 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I wish I could do that! | ||
| mikehowarth | | ... | 10-02-2011 @ 01:38 |
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.02.2011 @ 01:40 AM by mikehowarth Wiegieboard said:I wish I could do that! Don't be impressed, it's all technique... He's actually piss weak Give me an ugly lump with an uglier attitude any day, far to happy for my liking too! | ||